How Trump Helps MS-13
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Started by joj - May 13, 2019, 6:57 a.m.
By TimNew - May 13, 2019, 12:20 p.m.
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Yeah, it's not their fault they live in a crime ridden corrupt country,  it's our fault for not fixing it!  When will we ever learn that holding people responsible for their own lives is just cruel and wrong?

By metmike - May 13, 2019, 1:25 p.m.
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These people live in an anti Trump universe where laws of this universe don't apply.

In their world,  the law of  physics of an effective barrier do not apply and would  not make it much harder for illegals to enter our some cases, cause more of them to come. 

Then there is this guys new proposal. 

Spend ten billion dollars per country, send our military in to risk their lives and clean up their problems for them, then their people will want to stay in their 10 years. 

Here is this guys proposal:

"There are better options. Bill Clinton and then George W. Bush invested some $10 billion in counterinsurgency and counternarcotics efforts to rescue Colombia from the grip of jungle guerrillas and drug lords. The plan was expensive, took a decade, involved the limited deployment of U.S. troops, and was widely mocked.

Yet it worked. Colombia is South America’s great turnaround story. And nobody today worries about a Colombian migration crisis.

It’s always possible that Trump knows all this — and rejects it precisely because it stands a reasonable chance of eventually fixing the very problem"

Of course Trump knows all this............but he lives in this universe. 

Trump has been asking for 5 billion for the wall (half the price of the intervention above for just 1 country) and more border security and it sure beats putting our brave soldiers lives on the line in all these foreign countries trying to impose our standards on them. It would be extraordinarily naive to think that we would not expect some political pay off from their government if we are intervening in their countries.

To suggest the solution is for us to police and clean up the world so that its such a great place that people will no longer want to come here is........... completely missing some stark realities that exist in the real world. 

How did our interventions to clean up Iraq or Afghanistan work out?

I'm all for providing maximum assistance to these countries to help them with crime and poverty. First, we should get our ducks in a row in the US and address crime and illegal activity in this country and that can start by enforcing legal immigration. Before sending our troops to foreign countries to fight their crime, let's do a better job using tools that we have available right here to make our own country/citizens safer.