Biden takes credit for the recent economic growth under Trump
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Started by metmike - May 20, 2019, 3:54 p.m.

Biden says Trump is going to 'squander' the economy he got from Obama

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-says-trump-is-going-to-squander-the-economy-he-got-from-obama

"Biden took credit for the recent economic growth under Trump, claiming that his work with President Barack Obama to pass the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 is why the country has been adding jobs and expanding."


"Former Vice President Joe Biden ripped into Donald Trump during his rally in Philadelphia Saturday afternoon, saying that the president would "squander" the economy he inherited from the last administration."


https://www.lifezette.com/2019/05/biden-tries-to-take-full-credit-for-trumps-economic-accomplishments/

Biden said this in the video below: “I know President Trump likes to take credit for the economy … Just look at the facts, not the alternative facts. President Trump inherited an economy from Obama-Biden administration that was given to him — just like he inherited everything else in his life.”


Who here believes that and please give reasons for doing so.

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By metmike - May 20, 2019, 3:57 p.m.
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Biden's China gaffe highlights Democrats' difficulty in bucking new status quo


https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/442852-bidens-china-gaffe-shows-how-hard-it-will-be-for-democrats-to-buck-new


"Former Vice President Joe Biden’s recent jaw-dropper that China is not America’s competition is simultaneously wrong and informative for 2020. The “wrong” is obvious, but the “informative” is more important because it demonstrates how quickly the potential opposition to Trump can shrink. Among the most prominent components of this attrition is the difference between a generic and a real challenger. 

On May 1, Biden stunned everyone from Foggy Bottom to the Middle Kingdom by stating: “China is going to eat our lunch? Come on man … they’re not competition for us.” Despite eight years in the previous administration and six terms in the Senate, Biden’s observation runs counter to all evidence — economic, military and foreign policy — as China does to America’s values. China is America’s greatest competitor — it has been since the Soviet Union’s collapse left it the only other superpower."


Who here believes Bidens position/statement on China?  Reasoning?

By silverspiker - May 21, 2019, 12:22 a.m.
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Lmfao..........  lmfao..........


Lol z

By silverspiker - May 21, 2019, 12:52 a.m.
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Please do not denigrate  the "Foggy River Bottom Boys "

By TimNew - May 21, 2019, 4:01 a.m.
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The China "gaffe"doesn't need rebuttal. It was obvious to begin and has been addressed on many fronts.   

The claim that current eco-growth belongs to Obama's move in 2009 should not need a rebuttal, but there seem to be a lot of people accepting it.

I'll concede that credit/blame for the 1st year economics/budget of an admin belongs to the previous admin, at least in most cases.

But, recall that growth under Obama was sporadic. We had some excellent  quarterly GDP's. We also had negative quarters.  He was the 1st president to never have an annual GDP greater than 3%. And if you look at economic history, the angle of a recovery is usually the inverse of the crash.  The faster and deeper it falls, the faster and steeper it climbs.

He was the president who assured us that a 2% GDP was the new normal.  Early yet, but that appears to be false.  He also assured us that without a magic wand MFG jobs were not coming back.  Since Trump took office,  we've added MFG jobs  at somewhere north of 700% higher than we did during the Obama years.

Regardless of the eco-metric, almost without exception,  a notable acceleration has occured since Trump took office. So we have a question to answer.    Did Obama's eco-policy finally kick in around the time Trump took office, or did something change?

By joj - May 21, 2019, 8:35 a.m.
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Biden is going to thrash Trump like a red headed step child.

By WxFollower - May 21, 2019, 12:13 p.m.
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 This looks like standard political BS. In reality, some is due to Trump, some is due to Obama, a lot is due to the cyclical nature of the economy, and very little is due to either VP Pence or VP Biden. Regardless, I’m still hoping he ends up as the nominee.

By carlberky - May 21, 2019, 1:30 p.m.
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Wxfollower: This looks like standard political BS. In reality, some is due to Trump, some is due to Obama, a lot is due to the cyclical nature of the economy, and very little is due to either VP Pence or VP Biden. Regardless, I’m still hoping he ends up as the nominee.

What he said.

By TimNew - May 22, 2019, 3:27 a.m.
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I've been looking for a source of data on Joe Biden's accomplishments so I can understand this apparent unwavering devotion and I seem to be looking in the wrong places.

So, to his supporters,  or anyone,   what are the accomplishments of Joe Biden that have you so convinced of his qualification as POTUS?

TIA.

By carlberky - May 22, 2019, 1:27 p.m.
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Tim, as an attorney, Biden was a businessman. As a Senator for several terms he had legislative experience. As Vice-President he had executive experience.
Trump ... a self proclaimed successful businessman who has enriched billionaires, alienated our allies, and divided our country like no other President since Abraham Lincoln.
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By mcfarm - May 22, 2019, 2:04 p.m.
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Tim, as an attorney, Biden was a business man ...that right there might explain Biden, he himself was not sure what he was.

By TimNew - May 23, 2019, 3:20 a.m.
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Thanks Carl.

To sum it up,  you are using vague generalities to highlight Biden's accomplishments.  Then, indicating you lack confidence in your argument,  you use vague generalities to denigrate Trump to support your pro-Biden argument.

IOW,  you can't point to a specific accomplishment of Biden's after nearly nearly 50 years in politics. He became a lawyer in 69 and was elected to the local city council in 70.  Guess that lawyerin stuff didn't work out so well for him.

So, it would appear that suport for Biden is more faith based than fact based.

By carlberky - May 23, 2019, 7:58 a.m.
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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=300008#enacted_ex=on

Tim, if you want specifics, go to the above for a listing of the 42 bills passed he sponsored as a Senator.

By mcfarm - May 23, 2019, 9:37 a.m.
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unless your name is Hillary you usually only get credit when you actually author  bill not co sponsor a bill

By carlberky - May 23, 2019, 12:09 p.m.
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