Ukraine.... more dirt being revealed
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Started by GunterK - Nov. 20, 2019, 1:35 p.m.

oh my... the Urkraineans say the Bidens received $16.5 billion ....and....

"...According to Interfax-Ukraine, MP Andriy Derkach announced at the same press conference that deputies have received new materials from investigative journalists alleging that the 'family' of ex-President Yanukovych funneled $7.4 billion through American investment firm Franklin Templeton Investments, which they claim have connections to the US Democratic party."

"...."The son of Templeton's founder, John Templeton Jr., was one of President Obama's major campaign donors. Another fund-related character is Thomas Donilon. Managing Director of BlackRock Investment Institute, shareholder Franklin Templeton Investments, which has the largest share in the fund. It is noteworthy that he previously was Obama's national security advisor,..."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-

indictment-reveals-hunter-biden-group-made-165-million-mp

( will probably not be mentioned at the impeachment trial )

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By metmike - Nov. 20, 2019, 2:44 p.m.
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KYIV. Nov 20 (Interfax-Ukraine) – "Ukrainian members of parliament have demanded the presidents of Ukraine and the United States, Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump, investigate suspicions of the legalization of $7.4 billion by the "family" of ex-President Viktor Yanukovych through the American investment fund Franklin Templeton Investments, which they said has ties to the U.S. Democratic Party."

"The MP said that the presidents of Ukraine and the United States should combine the efforts of the two countries to establish facts of corruption and money laundering with the participation of citizens of both countries.

"President Zelensky must pick up the phone, dial Trump, ask for help and cooperation in the fight against corruption and fly to Washington. The issue of combating international corruption in Ukraine with the participation of citizens, businessmen and U.S. officials should become a key during the meeting of the two presidents," he said.


metmike: Trump wanting to investigate this is an impeachable offense..........because it involved a democrat(s).

MSM states repeatedly that there is no evidence of wrongdoing by the Bidens. Of course not:

No investigation = no evidence


But sometimes it backfires with corrupt investigations. 

Mueller investigation of 2.5 years/35,000,000 = no evidence


That's one of the reasons we know they are bogus investigations. When tremendous resources go into an investigation(this one to find colluding with Russia), it's based on the assumption that it will pay off with very high confidence based on reliable information that the target committed blatant crimes(Trump colluding with Russia)which the investigation will find overwhelming evidence of.

When it comes up empty.......like the Mueller investigation did, then we know that the sources used to start the investigation must have been fraudulent  and we know that the investigators knew pretty early on that Trump did not collude. Instead, they carried on for 2.5 years and created their own crimes that had nothing, zero, nada to do with the reason they were doing the investigation, in order to make it appear as if their investigation was legit.

             

                               

Alan Dershowitz: Stone indictment follows concerning Mueller pattern

            https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/427020-alan-dershowitz-stone-indictment-follows-concerning-mueller-pattern  

  

"The indictment of former Donald Trump associate Roger Stone follows a long pattern that should raise serious concerns about the special counsel. Like virtually all of these indictments, this one does not charge any major crimes relating to Russia that were committed before the special counsel was appointed. It charges crimes that grew out of the investigation and were allegedly committed after Robert Mueller was appointed in 2017.

Recall that the primary job of the special counsel was to uncover crimes that had already occurred relating to Russian involvement in the 2016 election."


metmike: Maybe we will finally hear the truth about how the Mueller investigation got started to investigate something that did not happen for 2.5 years.

By metmike - Nov. 20, 2019, 7:33 p.m.
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The ironic thing continues to be that the biggest REAL investigation into fake corruption(by Trump with Russia)  based 100% on politically motivated, fraudulent information, which was then perpetuated and defended, even after it came up completely empty is being treated as perfectly acceptable.....because of the parties involved(the law violators get away with it, the innocent target continues to be attacked).

Then, the roles are reversed.........except that there was real corruption in the Ukraine that legitamately deserves an investigation, so in this case there is justification based on the facts(unlike the Mueller report that used manufactured/fake information).

This  one too is politically motivated because Trump knows and so does the rest of the planet that objectively looks at the facts, that democrats were behind this REAL corruption in Ukraine. 

So yes, politics played a role in both situations. 

The first investigation was about  fake corruption and those behind the investigation were actually the corrupt ones. 

The 2nd one is about real corruption and there absolutely should be investigations.....but only the dems and DOJ are allowed to determine who gets investigated and what the rules are, which go as follows:


The dems want us to think that Trump just wanted the Ukraine to make stuff up about Biden to help him win the election. Not true. If Biden and the democrats were completely innocent, then the investigation  would show that and clear them, thats what legit investigations do.  Trump was only asking for a fair investigation into this corruption. 

The Ukraine, has been indicating that they want to root out corruption and expose past corruption....including statements made today. 

This lines up exactly with what Trump wants and is the correct way to proceed for the best future interest of both countries.

Sorry if it looks like the democrats were in on numerous corrupt schemes in the Ukraine and not the republicans.  That's no reason for it to be wrong for republicans to uncover corruption.

Of course this is political but in what universe would the democrats be investigating their own corruption?


By metmike - Nov. 20, 2019, 9:26 p.m.
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Even more ironic is............let me introduce you to the Queen of corruption.

She made this incident with Trump to being like a light sprinkle that settles the dust compared to a catastrophic flash flood.


At the Clinton Foundation, Access Equals Corruption

Saturday, September 03, 2016

            http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_ted_rall/at_the_clinton_foundation_access_equals_corruption

"More than half of the people who managed to score a personal one on one meeting with Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State donated money to the Clinton Foundation, either as an individual or through a company where they worked. "Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million," the Associated Press reported.

Does that make Clinton corrupt?

Yes. It does."


metmike: This below really did happen too. Regardless of who did what and when they did it, it happened.

Obama-era Russian Uranium One deal: What to know

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-era-russian-uranium-one-deal-what-to-know

But its all acceptable and no investigations are required when dems are running the show.