GOP approach to climate change
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Started by wglassfo - Feb. 16, 2020, 1:06 a.m.

If Trump mentioned this in his state of the Union speech I missed it

But I think this is a very good approach to those concerned with climate change. The GOP and WH are proposing planting a trillion [I think the number is correct] around the world with the USA taking the lead

GOP advisors have been worried they are being branded as climate deniers to a large segment of the population.

As much as they try to sell the idea climate is not an issue, or any action serves to restrict commerce in the USA, this is a hard sell to a lot of voters. The young and a good part of the rest of the voting public have this uneasy feeling that climate might be an issue. These people just don't know what to think, but I know many I talk to, have this feeling some thing done is safer than being a climate denier.

Instead of fighting the battle, the idea of planting trees appeals to young and all segments of the voter, with very little cost to industry and will certainly help with air quality if nothing else. A fresh breeze under the shade tree in your back yard immediately comes to mind with many and the public parks for those stuck in high rises are a welcome change of pace. Green is good in any bodies thoughts.

Sort of like killing two birds with one stone, but who is to argue. Just let it go as a good deed for all humanity. Anybody can plant a tree some place. We have planted several around our home.

Dems proposed action on climate control while perhaps being wrong from the get go still have climate people on their side, and in an election every vote helps and when you think about it, trees are a favourite with most people

I think this is a very good idea no matter your opinion about climate

Rumour has it Jared and Ivanka worked on a solution that would be acceptable to the voter while not ruffling feathers in the GOP camp about cost to commerce and industry

Trump can say he was on board at least with his state of the union and also did the correct thing, when with drawing from the Paris Accord, whilst not ignoring the climate people. He just has a better idea. Of coarse the Dems disagree but what else is new. People expect the Dems to disagree. That gets old after a while.

If this is true then good job Jared and Ivanka and best of all the rank and file GOP can get behind this and really push it

The PR should give good results, IMHO


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By metmike - Feb. 16, 2020, 7:34 p.m.
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Thanks Wayne,

I agree strongly!

Planting trees is a great thing. The more the better.

The planet is already greening up in a massive way and more trees will just add to it!

By metmike - Feb. 16, 2020, 8:35 p.m.
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Bad news for climate alarmists: global carbon dioxide emissions flatlined in 2019

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/02/13/bad-news-for-climate-alarmists-global-carbon-dioxide-emissions-flatlined-in-2019/

" The United States recorded the largest emissions decline on a country basis, with a fall of 140 million tonnes, or 2.9%. US emissions are now down by almost 1 gigatonne from their peak in 2000."

metmike: Inconvenient fact, since our evil leader is supposedly destroying the planet because of the burning of fossil fuels.



By metmike - Feb. 16, 2020, 8:35 p.m.
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Across advanced economies, emissions from the power sector declined to levels last seen in the late 1980s, when electricity demand was one-third lower than today. Coal-fired power generation in advanced economies declined by nearly 15% as a result of growth in renewables, coal-to-gas switching, a rise in nuclear power and weaker electricity demand.

 

 

By metmike - Feb. 16, 2020, 8:42 p.m.
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The main reason to post this article is my comment below.


 

An autopsy of the climate policy debate’s corpse

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/02/13/an-autopsy-of-the-climate-policy-debates-corpse/


 

In 50 years....... probably much sooner than that, the world will look back at this time frame and the topic of the fake climate crisis and get the same impression we do today at the medical procedure called “blood letting” by physicians hundreds of years ago.

Medical ignorance/a lack of understanding what causes illness’s as well as appreciating the profound value/benefits of what blood supplies to our bodies were a couple of reasons for this.

In this age, we have understood the benefits of increasing CO2 and global warming for over a century. We are measuring a massively greening planet with most life doing well from the best weather/climate in the last 1,000 years(the last time that it was this warm).

The coldest places, at the coldest times of year are warming the most………..similar to the Holocene Climate OPTIMUM from 9,000 to 5,000 years ago.
Temperatures in the Arctic during that time frame were several degrees warmer than they are now and there was less ice than what is there currently.

If we went back to 60 years ago, when all of science knew those warmer conditions were optimal for life and asked scientists then,  if our planet’s ideal temperature should be  warmer or colder than the temperature in 1960, probably 97% would have said with confidence WARMER!

That’s why they called it the “Holocene Climate OPTIMUM” not the Holocene Climate CRISIS” or the “Holocene Climate EMERGENCY”.

So climate science had already advanced enough, many decades ago to know that we are currently on the cusp of enjoying another climate OPTIMUM for life on this greening planet.

So, in 50 years when they look back at this age, people will not think “oh, climate science had not advanced far enough for them to understand important things, which caused them to call a climate optimum a climate emergency. 

Authentic climate science had already advanced far enough to know this more than 60 years ago and in fact, for hundreds of years prior to that!

What they will be amazed at is how climate science was hijacked for a political agenda………on a global scale. With world governments, many scientists, the media and others playing a key role as gatekeepers of information to sell a model manufactured global climate  projection based on a speculative theory but sold as “settled science” as in, almost as sure as gravity. 

A time when empirical data/observations and anything that contradicted model projections was rejected for policy making. 

A time when top scientists who questioned the theory were condemned and labelled as deniers. 

When the MSM made an intentional effort to use many extreme weather events(most that have always happened in the past) as examples of the fake climate crisis.

When we were told that the increase in beneficial CO2 and warming was going to destroy the greening planet in 12 years. 

When they used an anti science spewing 16 year old high priestess,  saying insane, easy to verify as false statements to recruit young people into the climate crisis religious cult……………by using very scary words, expressed convincingly with her unique charismatic  style. 

Education about authentic climate science went backwards. Climate change and human caused climate change were synonymous. Used and even taught interchangeably because the natural cycles of authentic climate science got in the way of the agenda.

This is what they will attribute it to:

1. A push for Global socialism.
2. Huge funding for scientists.
3.  Massive funding for green projects.
4. Massive revenue for governments via carbon tax schemes and
5. Via lobby money to politicians for green projects.
6.  Increased ratings by sensationalizing the weather for the media as well as imposing the progressive activists (dominating journalism) belief system on to millions that watch/read the stories.
7. Reigning in the over consumption of natural resources of developed countries with the “sustainable consumption” model for our future world based on the United Nations goals. 

All that, counted much more than telling the world the truth about the weather/climate/science/biology/agronomy and widespread benefits of CO2 to life.

 
By metmike - Feb. 17, 2020, 11:28 a.m.
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Ryan Maue@RyanMaueHarvard grading scale?  Under 60 is flunking ... a big red F.

@MikeBloomberg

 flunks "climate change policy" according to this neutral report by our friends at Greenpeace.

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Harvard Students for Bernie

@Harvard4Bernie

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Voters should know that @MikeBloomberg literally has the worst climate score out of everyone running. 

Bernie: A+ (94/100) Steyer: A (88) Warren: A (87) Buttigieg: B+ (72.5) Biden: B+ (72) Gabbard: B (69.5) Klobuchar: C+ (52.5) Bloomberg: C+ (50) https://greenpeace.org/usa/climate2020/


metmike: This is based purely on climate crisis policy, not authentic climate science knowledge, which they would all fail miserably on..........if I was the grader (-:

By metmike - Feb. 17, 2020, 12:12 p.m.
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Stephen McIntyre@ClimateAudit

The climate "science" community deserves much, if not nearly all, of the blame for the misinformed views held by its Trotskyite wing of Extinction Rebellion etc. Its most prominent scientists have advocated similar views.

Mike Shellenberger

@ShellenbergerMD

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Emissions are declining thanks to nuclear energy & natural gas, and yet those who are most alarmist about climate change — @BernieSanders @GretaThunberg @XRebellionUK — oppose them. Why is that? My latest @Forbes — please share! https://forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2020/02/17/if-they-are-so-alarmed-by-climate-change-why-are-they-so-opposed-to-solving-it/#433b38e26b75

By metmike - Feb. 17, 2020, 12:15 p.m.
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If They Are So Alarmed By Climate Change, Why Are They So Opposed To Solving It? 

Answer: Because its really not about climate change, its about socialism. 


https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2020/02/17/if-they-are-so-alarmed-by-climate-change-why-are-they-so-opposed-to-solving-it/#67646b1b6b75