Using COVID-19 for a fake climate crisis
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Started by metmike - April 28, 2020, 12:34 p.m.

The objective has always been to scare the Sheet out of us with threats of a climate apocalypse, which they started predicting in the 1980's  and was supposed to happen by the year 2000. Now, we are told that it will happen in 2030(while the climate optimum keeps getting better on this greening planet).


With the world reeling from the coronavirus pandemic and now very sensitive/paranoid about the threats from virus's, all of a sudden, scientists are discovering that the climate crisis will unleash/cause tons of virus's.

Who would have thunk it. All these killer virus's from the past are locked up in the ice that will melt.


Welp, Scientists Found 28 New Virus Groups in a Melting Glacier

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a30643717/viruses-found-melting-glacier/

"Meltwater from glaciers and ice caps could ferry harmful pathogens along streams, rivers, and other important waterways, potentially exposing humans to new microbes, the researchers report."

metmike: Many problems with that. One is that 15,000 years ago, the Wisconsin glacier extended down to the Chicago area, which was under up to a mile of ice and has been receding since then. Where are all the killer virus's that were released from the melting ice the past 15,000 years?  Like usual the reality never matches up with the wild speculation/predictions. 



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By metmike - April 28, 2020, 12:58 p.m.
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Speaking of glaciers, here's a story that confirms my previous statement about the melting ice(and no killer virus's being released).

And like many of these studies and stories, lies about facts.

The massive glacier that formed the Great Lakes is disappearing — and greenhouse gases are to blame for its untimely demise

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-disappearing-glacier-great-lakes-20190213-story.html

"Scientists say the warmth of the past century exceeds any in the last 115,000 years, and perhaps even longer, according to a study published last month."


Seriously? Until climate science was hijacked and rewritten by the gatekeepers that use junk science, models, speculation and distorted facts, the Holocene Climate OPTIMUM was universally agreed on to be much warmer (and an OPTIMUM for life) than this in the higher latitudes(where the melting ice and most warming is right now).

That period was 4,000 years long from 9,000 to 5,000 years ago.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum


The Holocene Climate Optimum (HCO) was a warm period during roughly the interval 9,000 to 5,000 years BP, with a thermal maximum around 8000 years BP. It has also been known by many other names, such as Altithermal, Climatic Optimum, Holocene Megathermal, Holocene Optimum, Holocene Thermal Maximum, Hypsithermal, and Mid-Holocene Warm Period.


Out of 140 sites across the western Arctic, there is clear evidence for conditions warmer than now at 120 sites. At 16 sites, where quantitative estimates have been obtained, local HTM temperatures were on average 1.6±0.8 °C higher than now.  Northwestern North America had peak warmth first, from 11,000 to 9,000 years ago, and the Laurentide Ice Sheet still chilled the continent.  Northeastern North America experienced peak warming 4,000 years later. Along the Arctic Coastal Plain in Alaska, there are indications of summer temperatures 2–3 °C warmer than present.[5] Research indicates that the Arctic had less sea ice than the present.[6]

 

Temperature variations during the Holocene from a collection of different reconstructions and their average. The most recent period is on the right, but the recent warming is only seen in the inset.


By metmike - April 28, 2020, 1:06 p.m.
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https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/12/inconvenient-stumps/

Inconvenient stumps

We’ve been told it is warming so fast, we have only 12 years left!

 

 

Yet nature seems to not be paying attention to such pronouncements, as this discovery shows.

 

 


 

"This photo shows  a tree stump of White Spruce that was radiocarbon dated at 5000 years old. It was located 100 km north of the current tree line  in extreme Northwest Canada."

"The area is now frozen tundra, but it was once warm enough to support significant tree growth like this.

 

If climate was this warm in the past, how did that happen before we started using the fossil fuels that supposedly made our current climate unprecedentedly warm?"

The melting ice, instead of releasing deadly virus's.............is instead, revealing that it was this warm or warmer than this in the not so distant past(last time was 1,000 years ago during the Medieval WARM period)

                                    


By metmike - April 28, 2020, 1:13 p.m.
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Over 3 decades of trying to scare us with junk science and a fake climate crisis:


U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

PETER JAMES SPIELMANN   June 29, 1989

https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

   UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. 

   Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP. 

   He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control. 

   As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday. 

   Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study. 

   ″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said. 

   UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone. 

   Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands, while the Soviet Union could reap bumper crops if it adapts its agriculture in time, according to a study by UNEP and the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis. 

   Excess carbon dioxide is pouring into the atmosphere because of humanity’s use of fossil fuels and burning of rain forests, the study says. The atmosphere is retaining more heat than it radiates, much like a greenhouse. 

   The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown. 

   The difference may seem slight, he said, but the planet is only 9 degrees warmer now than during the 8,000-year Ice Age that ended 10,000 years ago. 

   Brown said if the warming trend continues, ″the question is will we be able to reverse the process in time? We say that within the next 10 years, given the present loads that the atmosphere has to bear, we have an opportunity to start the stabilizing process.″ 

   He said even the most conservative scientists ″already tell us there’s nothing we can do now to stop a ... change″ of about 3 degrees. 

   ″Anything beyond that, and we have to start thinking about the significant rise of the sea levels ... we can expect more ferocious storms, hurricanes, wind shear, dust erosion.″ 

   He said there is time to act, but there is no time to waste. 

   UNEP is working toward forming a scientific plan of action by the end of 1990, and the adoption of a global climate treaty by 1992. In May, delegates from 103 nations met in Nairobi, Kenya - where UNEP is based - and decided to open negotiations on the treaty next year. 

   Nations will be asked to reduce the use of fossil fuels, cut the emission of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases such as methane and fluorocarbons, and preserve the rain forests. "