https://nypost.com/2020/09/17/joe-bidens-cnn-town-hall-will-have-a-drive-in-format/
"Democratic nominee Joe Biden will appear at a CNN town hall on Thursday evening designed to resemble a drive-in amid the coronavirus pandemic.
In an election first, the septuagenarian candidate will front a field of cars in a parking lot at PNC Field in Moosic, Penn., in a bid to keep voters socially distanced, according to a report from the cable network.
Thirty-five cars will file into the parking lot where a stage has been assembled for Biden and moderator Anderson Cooper. A total of 100 people will be in attendance.
Voters at the town hall will be able to sit in their car and tune to an FM radio station to listen to Biden and Cooper, just like a drive-in movie which have exploded in popularity during COVID-19.
It will be the former veep’s first prime-time town hall since he became the Democratic nominee in August"
I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the format but it doesn't make sense that these same people insisted millions of people smashed together, some not wearing masks were NOT spreading COVID and they encouraged that behavior all Summer, then they act completely different and apply different rules to different settings.
They claim to be for science but the science is adjusted to fit the politics. They start with a political agenda, then use manufactured science to support it.
Double standard of liberals between COVID and riots
26 responses |
Started by WxFollower - June 2, 2020, 1:56 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/53203/
Covering up massive COVID being spread from protests-8/8 update below
25 responses |
Started by metmike - July 30, 2020, 7:28 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/57070/
THERE IS ONLY 1 RULE IN THE UNIVERSE
18 responses |
Started by wxdavid - July 2, 2020, 5:59 p.m.
Their science tells us that this spreads COVID:
The same science (they adjust) tells us that this below does NOT spread COVID:
Just to review that again this below spreads COVID:
But this event below does NOT spread COVID:
This comes from the same rule book that they use for climate science.
They start with the political agenda and adjust the science, weather/climate so it matches up.
According to them.....Climate change hurts all good life/creatures(as defined by humans).........humans, bees, crops, polar bears, bunny rabbits butter flies, trees.
The exact same climate change and weather, causes ALL bad life to flourish: Ticks, fleas, mosquitoes, roaches, rats, weeds, virus's.
How does climate change cause major, life threatening adversity for all good life and at the same time, provide optimal conditions for all bad life to thrive? Trump
It would be like saying the law of gravity only applies to half of the creatures and the rest are not affected.
The affects of climate change may vary from species to species but the current climate optimum is benefiting almost ALL of life(good and bad) for many of the same reasons.
You are told the truth about some of the benefits to bad life and those are often exaggerated.
Then, they totally disregard the truth when it comes to good life. Climate change can never be good. It's a climate crisis/emergency and they attempt to connect anything bad to it.........with a complete disregard for authentic science of any kind, except for Twilight Zone science (-:
This is their latest effort:
California governor blames wildfires on climate 'emergency'
20 responses |
Started by metmike - Sept. 14, 2020, 12:08 a.m.
Nurse to Joe Biden asking about what his plan is for health care workers.
Biden: I have a plan for healthcare workers but I won't bore you with the details. I'll get your name and send you the information.
Here's there to answer questions and many of his answers are scary because he has no clue.
He's spent most of his time blaming Trump and half the time contradicting himself and getting his facts wrong.
It's because of Trump that our lives are like this, having all these restrictions and things closed down so much but then out of the other side of his mouth, if Trump had more restrictions and closed things down more than we wouldn't have so many deaths.
So are things closed down too much or not enough because of Trump?
It's all Trumps fault but then asked what he would do, he says the federal government is limited because the states have to make their own decisions......but somehow, when those states were making those decisions earlier this year...........Trump is responsible for the deaths in those states?
No wonder they had Joe hiding. His answers are scary.
My wife said "he reminds me of your dad (who is 95) when he's having a bad day.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/18/joe-biden-makes-multiple-dubious-claims-at-cnn-town-hall/
metmike: President Trump does this sort of thing all the time bigger than any politician in history. However, when we go to the voting booth in November and see:
1. Donald J. Trump
2. NOT Donald J. Trump
If NOT Donald J. Trump(Biden) is displaying some of the same negative character flaws that have turned people away from Donald J. Trump, then the difference between them in this particular realm becomes harder to see.
If Joe Biden wants a leg to stand on when bashing Trump for mis stating things and him giving people a choice of somebody that does not do this, he must stop doing it, in some cases even worse than Trump.
On the protesting(he's finally come around), on the fracking, on the Green New Deal, on the Coronavirus, on race/police(stop pretending that you and Barrack did something about this).
On the fires and hurricanes...stop doing this: https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59093/
Tell us the truth please, not just what sounds good to get votes based on polls and what your handlers are telling you to say.
Telling the truth can be a massive attribute to use against President Trump.
Not claiming to tell the truth or represent it, then saying things that are not the truth and constantly contradicting and shifting some positions.
I realize the effective strategy is going to be running on NOT Donald J Trump, so the most important part of the platform/agenda relies on convincing us how evil that he is.
The problem with that is it's very difficult to separate this as purely a political tactic and outright hatred for President Trump. My strong impression is that Joe Biden expresses his opinions about Trump very passionately with hatred and a desire to get others to hate President Trump.
If I were to vote NOT Donald Trump, it would have to be for somebody that is honest and doesn't exude hate.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-says-trump-acted-sooner-coronavirus-all-people-alive
"If the president had done his job... had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive," the Democratic presidential nominee told the audience in Pennsylvania. "All the people -- I’m not making this up. Just look at the data. Look at the data."
"Meanwhile, The Washington Post exclaimed Biden "is making this up."
"There is no data to support this, even if the president had moved rapidly in January to deal with the coronavirus and been able to persuade the Chinese leadership to be more forthcoming about the situation," the paper reported."
metmike: This is not just bragging or embellish about something Biden has done or making up stuff about the Green New Deal or making up that the wildfires are from climate change and Donald Trump is the arsonist. This is just pathetic. It shows somebody driven by neurotic hatred of President Trump that will discard the truth and personal ethical standards to say outlandish things to obliterate the person that they hate..........to the point of embarrassing themselves.
What that statement above did for me was to obliterate the credibility of ...............Joe Biden.
The Biden Harrison Plan:
https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/#
The United States must have a bold plan to achieve a 100% clean energy economy and net-zero emissions no later than 2050 here at home. On day one, Biden will sign a series of executive orders that put us on this track. And, he will demand that Congress enacts legislation in the first year of his presidency that 1) establishes an enforcement mechanism to achieve the 2050 goal, including a target no later than the end of his first term in 2025 to ensure we get to the finish line,
3) incentivizes the rapid deployment of clean energy innovations across the economy. Failure is not an option. If Congress falls short of its duty to act, Biden will hold them accountable.
metmike: We frack for natural gas. Biden defines this as dirty energy and burning it emits fossil fuels which he vows he will make decisions that result in cutting them on day one. By definition, he would have to be for cutting back on fracking from the get go based on his stated agenda.
The BIden/Sanders plan:
Presidential candidate Joe Biden has advanced environmental policy recommendations that most analysts find more ambitious than his stance in favor of curbing man-made climate change earlier in his campaign.
The climate goals — including a call to eliminate carbon emissions from power plants by 2035 and modernizing the electric grid to help achieve this — were part of the presumptive Democratic nominee’s collaboration with former contender Sen. Bernie Sanders and his more progressive platform.
Where do you think the electric grid gets its energy from?
Natural gas(and coal), much of which is from fracking.
If your plan is to completely eliminate natural gas use for power plants by 2035, which means zero and you have vowed to employ your strategies to do this, starting day one in office, this plan MUST involve cutting back on fracking ASAP{...........because eliminating natural gas and coal ASAP defines the plan.
So when Joe Biden discusses his plans on climate change and green energy to the far left and environmentalists/Bernie supporters, he shows them his plans to eliminate natural gas and the fracking that produces it.
He even says it in a debate with Bernie.
You cannot be for the Green New Deal or anything like it without being against fracking.
Green New Deal = fossil fuels go bye bye
Then, when he goes to PA, a state where fracking is very important to jobs and their economy, he tells everyone that he will not ban fracking. Numerous times he repeats it.
If that were true, then he must not be for the Green New Deal anymore. He must no longer be signing the US back up with the Climate Accord on day one as promised and no longer planning to serve as the world leader for eliminating fossil fuels and the fracking that extracts them.
We know that is not true.
Green New Deal = goodbye combustible engine =good bye corn ethanol
Its amazing to me that we are not being told this fact above. Just another example of certain key pieces of information controlled by the gatekeepers that never make the news cycle.
Numerous excellent points.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/517160-the-memo-media-accused-of-using-kid-gloves-on-biden
The questions Biden faced during the 75-minute event were overwhelmingly sympathetic, and only a single one —from a Republican voter who asked about regulation — could have been considered hostile.
The event’s moderator, Anderson Cooper, was also respectful toward Biden, offering little by way of interrogation of the former vice president.
The contrast to an ABC News town hall featuring President Trump several days earlier was stark. Trump faced stern questions from audience members and from the moderator, George Stephanopoulos.
Complaints about media coverage are a dime a dozen from political partisans, but the CNN town hall drew adverse comment beyond the usual suspects.
The whole question of what constitutes fairness in covering a president so one-of-a-kind as Trump is something that the media, and outside observers, have grappled with — and failed to come remotely close to a consensus.
“I think the old formulas of campaign coverage have fallen apart, and reporters don’t have a clear idea” of what should replace them, New York Times media columnist Ben Smith told The Hill.
To Trump supporters, Biden has got an easy ride on everything from his position on fracking, which has softened since the Democratic primary, to what he would have done differently from Trump in the early days of the coronavirus pandemic.
To Biden backers, Trump’s inconsistencies and misstatements are of a different order. In late July, a Washington Post tally found that Trump had made more than 20,000 false or misleading statements during his presidency.
There is another complication: Just as politicians are often accused of “refighting the last campaign,” the same might be true of the media.
Coverage of the 2016 campaign has been a subject of rancorous debate ever since Trump’s election. Two themes — the amount of airtime given to Trump, especially in the early days of his campaign, and the scrutiny devoted to Hillary Clinton’s emails — have assumed enormous significance, especially in the minds of the president’s critics.
Some observers argue that there has been an over-correction on the mainstream media’s part for these supposed errors — though whether this is because of journalistic concerns or a more subjective dislike of Trump himself is an open question.
“I think many in the mainstream press corps regret the time they spent on Hillary Clinton’s emails and Benghazi in 2016, because they believe that coverage ultimately helped President Trump win the election,” said Ronica Cleary, a former White House correspondent for Washington’s Fox 5 TV station.
“So, in this race, those same reporters are saying to themselves, ‘We can’t risk it this time.’ There is an undeniable willingness for them to be less tough on Biden. And I believe their thinking is, ‘We tried to be tough on Clinton and look where it got us.’ ”
Trump supporters complain as a matter of course that the media underplays Biden’s verbal flubs. Whether that is fair criticism is in the eye of the beholder. Trump himself is hardly an exemplar of verbal coherency.
Do controversies pertaining to Biden always get the same attention as they would if Trump was at their center?
Biden’s remark in May that African Americans who did not support him over Trump “ain’t Black” flared briefly but faded soon afterward. Republicans see that as a liberal media protecting their favored candidate. Democrats argue Trump says things that are just as outrageous on an almost daily basis.
Some independent observers claim to see a tilt against Trump and in favor of Biden — even if they are also at pains to distance themselves from the president’s “fake news” jabs.
“I am not suggesting the media is behaving in the way the president describes or that the media is making anything up or knowingly reporting anything that is false,” said Grant Reeher, a professor of political science at Syracuse University’s Maxwell School.
“But I do think it is also clear, after almost four years of his presidency, that editorial choices — about story selection, story framing and also, in particular, choices of headline — are very clearly very critical of the president.”
Tobe Berkovitz, a Boston University professor of communications, noted that the president has his own universe of media supporters on cable news and talk radio. But he also contended that Trump and his supporters are met with cultural disdain by many reporters in the mainstream.
“None of them want to be the one responsible for coverage of something that creates a story like Clinton’s emails,” Berkovitz said, “First of all, it is the herd mentality — do you want to be the pariah? And second, Trump is just anathema to what most of those journalists believe democracy is, and decency is.”
Campaign news coverage never wins broad approval, especially in a nation so polarized as today’s United States.
But Reeher, the Syracuse professor, worried that any tilt toward Biden, however small, has the effect of buttressing Trump’s bigger, more dangerous case about media bias.
“If I am right about the media’s orientation [against Trump], it gives the president just a tiny — tiny! — sliver of reality to the larger, false things he is saying about the media. They are giving him an ‘in’ there and they don’t need to. They could just report all this stuff straight.”
I feel the need to bring up these 3 items of blatant, clear hypocrisy (again) that has been adopted as key items of important policies this year, with minimal to zero scrutiny.
1. Joe Biden claims he will not ban fracking. At the same time, he is for the Green New Deal which eliminates fracking and he states that on day one, after being elected he will be taking aggressive actions to do this. The only purpose of fracking is to extract fossil fuels out of the ground. You cannot be for not banning fracking and for eliminating all fracking. It's either one of the other.
2. If you are for the Green New Deal then you can't be for corn ethanol. The Green New Deal eliminates gasoline as a fuel and eliminates the combustion engine. That is where almost all the demand for corn ethanol comes from. Imposing the terms of the Green New Deal kills off all the demand for corn ethanol.
3. If you are for social distancing because of the corona virus, then you can't be for widespread protesting......not even peaceful protesting of millions of people, with zero social distancing and many not wearing masks. If you feel that its unsafe for groups of 10 or more to gather or that people should stay 6 feet apart, then you must be strongly against hundred gathered with no distancing from each other.
To be for both of these things that contradict each other, would be like me picking both teams to win in the college football championship game earlier this year.
It would be like me going to LSU's campus, a week before the game and speaking to a crowd, telling them that I am putting all my support behind their team and predict they will beat Clemson by 2 touchdowns.
Then I fly to Clemson 2 days later and talk to a big crowd of their fans....telling them that I am putting all my support behind their football team, with a prediction that Clemson will win by 2 touchdowns.
Only 1 team can win this game.
They might be your 2 favorite teams and you can predict them to win every week, when they don't play each other but when they both oppose each other........only one team can win.
1. The Green New Deal opposes fracking
2. The Green New Deal opposes the combustion engine and corn ethanol
3. Protesting in large numbers opposes social distancing and safety measures for the spread of COVID.
On #3 above:
Double standard of liberals between COVID and riots
26 responses |
Started by WxFollower - June 2, 2020, 1:56 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/53203/
Covering up massive COVID being spread from protests-8/8 update below
25 responses |
Started by metmike - July 30, 2020, 7:28 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/57070/
THERE IS ONLY 1 RULE IN THE UNIVERSE
18 responses |
Started by wxdavid - July 2, 2020, 5:59 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/55017/
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On #2 above:
Green New Deal-corn ethanol: Good bye corn ethanol, Hello $2 corn prices again....$5 soybeans/supply gluts/ August 2019
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/38089/
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On #1 above:
Renewable energy: When can it replace fossil fuels? August 2019
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/35846/
Renewable vs fossil fuels: Diffuse solar vs dense fossil fuels. Benefits of CO2. September 2019
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39321/
The Biden Harrison Plan:
https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/#
The Biden/Sanders plan:
It isn't very hard to see Joe's statements are not consistant. He says different things and does different things.
I will use one example of many:
When Joe and Anderson were on the stage they did social distancing. As soon as Joe thought the camera was turned off [but it wasn't] video showed Joe up close with Anderson and with out a mask. And another thing I suddenly remembered: Another time Joe stopped his caravan to step out and talk to a group of firemen with out a mask, up close and personal
There are so many times that joe does not follow his own statements, even with a new supreme court justice, saying one thing in the past and a different statement today
This isn't lost on the general public
I read many articles that have a chance to comment on the article, be it economics, political or???
What I am finding is
1: Many fear the Dems will attempt to steal the election with mail-in ballots, or some kind of fraud. We have seen incorrectly labelled ballots in Mich, to late voting in PA to missing or late post marks on the envelop being counted plus much more as early voting means some have to vote in many different places. The fraud seen or not seen in this election will rise to a new level. And the US proclaims itself as the country to ensure fair voting in other countries with Carter being present on many occasions. Too bad his own country did not have the same standards of fair and equal voting. This is a concern for many people
2; Many think Joe will not complete his 1st term and Kalama will be the president which scares many voters with her extreme left bias
3: Many see the contradictions Joe makes and this results in a strong voting bloc for Trump as the best choice
4: Many see Trumps faults but also see Joe as the worst of a bad choice
5: Many blame the Dems for the riots and burning of the cities
6: Then you have the hard core who support Trump no matter what
7: With a vacancy on the supreme court many think there will now be a constitutional crisis
Most of these comments come from ordinary folks just making comments as they say what they think from a broad section of the population, and not counting extreme biased articles from either side, there seems to be broad support for Trump vs Biden within most of the country