US stocks trade higher on record US economic growth
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Started by metmike - Oct. 29, 2020, 10:08 p.m.

Main US stock indexes gained on Thursday on blockbuster GDP numbers and ahead of tech giant earnings results.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/10/29/us-stocks-mixed-as-second-wave-of-virus-lockdowns-gain-steam

Wall Street’s main stock indexes were all firmly in positive territory on Thursday after data showed the United States economy grew at an historic rate in the third quarter, thanks in large part to $3 trillion worth of pandemic aid passed by Congress.

But surging coronavirus cases in the US and Europe and partial lockdowns ordered in France and Germany are dragging on sentiment.


The Dow Jones Industrial Average was up more than 50 points or 0.19 percent around 11am Eastern Time.

The S&P 500 – a gauge for the health of US retirement and college savings reports – was up 0.74 percent, while the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite Index was up 1.06 percent.

The US economy rebounded at an unprecedented annual rate of 33.1 percent in the third quarter, the Bureau of Economic Analysis said on Thursday.

The blockbuster reading follows a record-shattering 31.4 percent contraction in the second quarter – and a negative 5 percent hit in the first quarter – when the economy officially entered a recession in February.

Other government data on Thursday showed initial jobless claims fell more than expected last week.

President Donald Trump lauded the GDP growth, writing on Twitter: “Next year will be FANTASTIC!!!”

He also said that tax increases proposed by his Democratic rival Joe Biden threatened to  “kill it all”.

But despite the GDP (gross domestic product) boom, coronavirus cases are rising in the US and Europe.  The spike combined with the looming prospect of a contested outcome to the November 3 US presidential election is manifesting in the form of market volatility.

The CBOE Volatility Index (VIX), also known as Wall Street’s fear gauge, rose to its highest level since June on Wednesday after the White House coronavirus task force urged for aggressive measures to curb the spread of COVID-19 infections"


metmike: After seeing the  better numbers than anyone expected, I guessed that there might be alot of positive headlines and comments.......ok, I should have known better. 

Just the opposite. In almost every case, the negatives in the articles far outweighed the positives from 2 vantage points.

1. Dwelling on what happened earlier in the year and that at the end of the year, even with this bullish shocker 2020 will be a really bad/bearish year. 

2. Things are getting much worse again and we should expect bad things ahead, so ignore this good news because it's a fluke. 


I did manage to find a couple of articles though that were mostly positive about this very positive news.

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By metmike - Oct. 29, 2020, 10:12 p.m.
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US economy turns in record Q3 growth, but crisis is not over

US GDP grows at a 33.1 percent annual rate in the third quarter, the fastest pace on record.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/10/29/us-economy-turns-in-record-q3-growth-but-crisis-is-not-over


The United States economy grew at its fastest pace on record in the third quarter, rebounding at an annual rate of 33.1 percent, the Bureau of Economic Analysis said on Thursday.

The blockbuster reading follows on from a record-shattering 31.4 percent contraction in the second quarter – and a negative 5 percent hit in the first quarter – when the economy officially entered a recession in February.


The balance signals that though the economy is crawling out of the deep hole dug by COVID-19, it still has a way to go to recapture its pre-pandemic strength.

Put simply, the economic crisis is not over.

Moreover, some sectors of the economy are recovering faster than others and those disparities are rippling through the fabric of American society in the form of deepening inequalities.

Those with a job and assets like stock portfolios and homes are doing well, while those who are jobless or own a business ravaged by virus restrictions are falling further behind. Racial wealth and income disparities are widening. Women are dropping out of the workforce at an alarming rate as the demands of jobs and looking after children learning remotely force tough choices on parents.

Thursday’s gross domestic product (GDP) report is the last major economic data release before the November 3 US presidential election.

The headline figure was lauded by President Donald Trump, who tweeted on Thursday: “Biggest and Best in the History of our Country”, and warned that his Democratic rival Joe Biden would “kill it all” with tax increases.

But the report is unlikely to dramatically influence Trump’s re-election prospects, given that more than 78 million Americans have already voted, according to the US Elections Project.

But there is a world of uncertainty that lies ahead – both for the election and the economy.

If the results of the election are contested, it could lead to further hold-ups with a new round of virus relief aid as the White House and Democrats in Congress fail to find common ground.

By metmike - Oct. 29, 2020, 10:30 p.m.
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United States Unemployment Rate


https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

The US unemployment rate declined to 7.9 percent in September 2020 from 8.4 percent in the previous month and below market expectations of 8.2 percent, as fewer people were looking for jobs. The labor force dropped by 0.7 million to 160.1 million, with the number of unemployed persons falling by 1.0 million to 12.6 million

United States Unemployment Rate


metmike: So what analysts earlier this year,  predicted unemployment would be back down to 7.9% in September?

By metmike - Oct. 29, 2020, 10:36 p.m.
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United States Housing Starts

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/housing-starts

Housing starts in the US rose 1.9 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 1.415 million units in September 2020, from a downwardly revised 1.388 million in the previous month and below market expectations of 1.457 million. Single-family housing starts jumped 8.5 percent to 1.108 million, while the volatile multi-family segment dropped 16.3 percent 307 thousand. Housing starts rose in the South (6.2 percent to 755 thousand), West (1.4 percent to 350 thousand) and Northeast (66.7 percent to 145 thousand); but dropped in the Midwest (-32.7 percent to 165 thousand).


United States Housing Starts

By TimNew - Oct. 30, 2020, 3:39 a.m.
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GDP was released at 830 and stocks opened strongly down.  So,  while the GDP was exceptional, it was largely priced in.  Jobless claims were down nicely, and that helped temper earlier losses. Stocks didn't start their serious climb until after 1pm.

My gut tells me equities are starting to price in the higher taxes and regulations associated with dems taking the executive and the senate.

The next week, at least, will be driven by the upcoming election.


By Richard - Oct. 30, 2020, 7:20 a.m.
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S&P to 1,800 or perhaps slightly lower

By metmike - Oct. 30, 2020, 3:24 p.m.
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Thanks Tim(and Richard)!


Instant Reaction: Third Quarter GDP, October 29, 2020

https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economists-outlook/instant-reaction-third-quarter-gdp-october-29-2020

    

The economy is now out of the technically deepest recession in US history as the GDP rose at an annualized rate of 33.1% in the third quarter. The recovery had been expected, given earlier strong indicators on housing, employment, and retail sales.

Fueling this recovery was strong personal consumer spending, which rose 40.7%. Consumers opened their wallets on every type of consumer item, but especially on recreation, food services, and accommodations, as the economic lockdown ended in Q3.

Business investment spending surged on the back of strong residential investment that rose by 59.3%. The housing market has had a spectacular recovery with mortgage rates at 50-year lows, hovering at below 3%. However, commercial investment spending remains depressed, with investment spending down by 14%, as businesses deal with the challenges and uncertainties of working from home on office space, the acceleration of e-commerce, and rent payment risks, as the $600 federal unemployment assistance ended in July. About 27% of renters, or 14.2 million, are worried that they can’t pay rent or will have rent deferred.

The real estate market—which accounts for about 20% of GDP—has been key to this quick V-shaped recovery. With mortgage rates hovering at below 3%, and given the strong showing of the housing market, the market should continue to support the economic recovery.

However, there are headwinds facing the economy in the next six months—the resurgence of COVID-19 infections, the end of the $600 federal unemployment insurance, as well as the expiration of the pandemic unemployment assistance for self-employed or independent workers that ends December 31. About 10 million people are accessing that benefit.

  




By WxFollower - Nov. 4, 2020, 10:51 a.m.
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  I see that the Dow is up sharply. I’m guessing this is due to the GOP retaining the Senate.

By metmike - Nov. 4, 2020, 12:29 p.m.
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Dow Futures Flip-Flop Early Wednesday as America Awaits a Winner in the 2020 Election

https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2020-11-04/dow-futures-flip-flop-early-wednesday-as-america-awaits-a-winner-in-the-2020-election


The prospect of a court challenge loomed, bringing back memories of the hotly contested 2000 election in which George W. Bush beat Al Gore following a ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court over contested ballots in Florida.

The Associated Press had the tally at 238 electoral votes for Biden, with Trump at 213 as of about 4 a.m. Biden won Arizona, turning a traditionally Republican stronghold blue but Trump was declared the winner in Florida. Several states – including crucial Midwest battlegrounds Michigan and Wisconsin, along with pivotal Pennsylvania were still counting votes. Final results could take a day or more to tally. The AP has not called the races in Georgia and North Carolina, either. 

"Both candidates at this stage often claim victory, but it's rare that we see an invocation of the court system at this point, and we expect quite a lot of market volatility," said Rick Lacaille, global chief investment officer at State Street Global Advisors.