Is Global Warming causing more flooding?
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Started by metmike - June 27, 2018, 12:38 p.m.

On the road later today and vacation the rest of the week, so this one may not get answered right away.

However, this will provide for a longer period for you to "flood" MarketForum with comments on the subject, to help get us out of the posting drought (-:

By Lacey - June 28, 2018, 8:18 a.m.
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As you have said many times Mike, Al Gore's projections of flooding have been completely wrong.  His whole agenda is another global tax for the progressive globalist and he wants all trading of CO2 to go through his exchange.  He is just a greedy guy.  A little ( hopefully) ice age is what the north Atlantic faces next. Not sure how long before it gets established.  Any thermal expansion of warm water is just the residual effects of the warmest climate since the medieval warm period.  Already starting to cool down.

By TimNew - June 28, 2018, 11:28 a.m.
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I think the political climate makes an NTR posting dearth almost inevitable.

You can't really have a spirited political discussion/debate if there is no one to take the other side.  And in light of the developments,  even MOJO is finding it hard to defend what is obviously a hopelessly flawed ideology. And it becomes more apparent how flawed it is with each passing day.

They have grown weary of an investigation that has not only not born fruit,  but may actually backfire and result in indictments of  "heroes" like Clinton and Obama.

They have grown weary of hopes for a "Blue Wave" when the economic numbers continue to improve dramatically while Trumps approval ratings match.

They have now lost all hope in their formerly faithful courts that continue to gain more and more conservative justices. How can they hope to accomplish anything when these justices actually rely on the constitution?

I can't say I blame them.  In their position,  I'd feel disheartened as well.  I'm even tempted to feel sorry for them but for one thing. This is all great news for the future of my country.  Freedom and prosperity is what brought us to the dance.

By carlberky - June 28, 2018, 2:25 p.m.
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We shall know in the fullness of time. We are ALL awaiting the release of Mueller's report … some hopefully and others with fear.

By metmike - June 28, 2018, 10:56 p.m.
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Global warming IS causing more flooding.

The amount of  moisture that the atmosphere can hold is dependent on the temperature. The warmer that it is, the more moisture that it can hold. Most places are wetter. increasing the  temperature just over 1 Deg. C allows it to hold around 5% more water vapor.  Warmer oceans also evaporate more water into the air.

It would sort of be like having 2 sponges, 1 that's 5% bigger than the other one. If you saturate both of them with water, applying the same amount of squeezing to both, is likely to yield 5% more moisture from the bigger one. 

With major, heavy rain events, this means roughly 5% more rain. Hurricane Harvey for instance produced 50 inches of rain over a several day period in Texas. If we cooled the oceans and atmosphere down to the temperatures that they were at a century ago, rains from Harvey theoretically, might be more like 47 or 48 inches. 

How much additional damage did the extra 2-3 inches or rain cause? 

Some extra damage for sure but most of what happened.............would have happened without global warming/climate change. 

The last 40 years have featured the best weather and climate for life on this planet, since the Medieval Warm Period, 1,000 years ago. So we should ask, would we want to give that up, along with the 25% increase in world food production because there is a 5% increase in rain for high end flooding events?

The benefits of global warming so far, have outweighed the negatives by something like a 10 to 1 ratio. If we keep warming at this rate, the benefits to negatives will shrink until, at some point, the negatives will outweigh the benefits.

We must also consider the huge bonus of increasing CO2 to crop yields/plant growth,  

CO2 does not stay in the atmosphere for hundreds of years as we've been told. More like 7-10 years. 

Why would we want to spend a billion dollars to cut back on something that's providing a  cheap, efficient and abundant energy source( the life blood of every country) and also, still providing more benefits than negatives? 

By Lacey - June 29, 2018, 10:25 a.m.
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Good synopsis of where we are at in this witch Hunt, Tim.

By silverspiker - June 29, 2018, 2:15 p.m.
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By metmike - July 3, 2018, 12:38 p.m.
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When moisture in the atmosphere increases, weather systems produce more precipitation.  Moisture(precipitable water) in the atmosphere has increased because warmer air holds more moisture.