50 years of Climate Forecasts
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Started by GunterK - Feb. 19, 2021, 8:59 p.m.

The readers of this forum are lucky to have metmike, a climate scientist, educating us about the real facts of the so-called "climate emergency"

I found this tabulation of 50 years of climate change forecats. Some of them we already learn ed about, others were new to me

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/lets-review-50-years-dire-climate-forecasts-and-what-actually-happened

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By 7475 - Feb. 19, 2021, 9:30 p.m.
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If it wasnt for mm I doubt Id stumble across enough denier rhetoric to make me doubt mainstream media.

Not that my circle is large,but "the general public" is doomed to believe.

 Just supposing.....

  John

By GunterK - Feb. 19, 2021, 9:42 p.m.
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same here.... if it wasn't for metmike, I'd be putting a picture of Greta on my desk., and hoping that the planet could still be saved.

By TimNew - Feb. 20, 2021, 7:59 a.m.
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The tragic comedy here is that when we doubt the validity of chronically failed predictions,  we're labeled as "deniers".

By mcfarm - Feb. 20, 2021, 11:26 a.m.
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you guys sound so cynical that you do not even believe John Kerry when he vows "its my lifes work and I will save the planet" but right now I am due in Paris on my private jet and am so important I can do whatever I want when ever I want and to hell with all you peons

By metmike - Feb. 21, 2021, 8:16 a.m.
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In Louisville for my grandaughters cheering competition this weekend.....otherwise I could add much more.

By metmike - Feb. 21, 2021, 11:09 p.m.
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Thanks for the nice comments guys!


Makes it worthwhile to enlighten a few brains.

                Climate Reality discussions            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/27864/


By metmike - Feb. 21, 2021, 11:20 p.m.
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John Kerry says Earth has 9 years to avert the worst consequences of climate crisis: "There's no faking it on this one"


    

The wild winter weather this week has been called historic and unprecedented, and John Kerry, U.S. special presidential envoy for climate, wants to stop it from becoming typical.

"Obviously we want to prevent this from becoming the new normal to the degree that we can," Kerry told CBS News' Ben Tracy.

Many people wrongly believe that climate change only relates to temperatures increasing, not decreasing.

Kerry said it threatens all weather patterns.

"I think it's a very appropriate way to think of it, so it is directly related to the warming, even though your instinct is to say, wait a minute, this is the new Ice Age. But it's not," Kerry said. "It is coming from the global warming and it threatens all the normal weather patterns." 

The planet is warming in large part because of greenhouse gas emissions that are pumped into the sky from power plants, cars, planes and industry. It even comes from the way we raise and grow our food. America is the second-largest emitter behind China of greenhouse gases that are warming the planet.

That warming is believed to make storms stronger, droughts drier and oceans higher. That means certain places on Earth where people currently live will become unlivable. In fact, it is already happening.

Kerry said we have only a few years left to avoid a climate catastrophe. 

"Well, the scientists told us three years ago we had 12 years to avert the worst consequences of climate crisis. We are now three years gone, so we have nine years left," he said. 

That's where the Paris accord, a climate treaty dedicated to lowering greenhouse gas emissions in more than 180 countries around the world, comes in. It was named after the City of Light, where it was agreed to back in 2015. But the pledges made then by nearly every country on Earth to cut their planet-warming emissions will no longer cut it.

"Even if we did everything that we said we were going to do when we signed up in Paris we would see a rise in the Earth's temperature to somewhere around 3.7 degrees or more, which is catastrophic," Kerry said.

When Kerry was secretary of state in 2016 he signed the Paris climate accord. A year later he watched his signature accomplishment erased by then-President Trump. In 2017, Mr. Trump announced he was pulling out of the landmark deal. His administration rolled back more than 100 environmental regulations. 

But renewable energy like wind turbines and solar panels are now much cheaper and are providing record amounts of energy in the U.S., putting some coal plants out of business. 

Automakers like Tesla that make luxury cars that run on batteries have inspired other car manufacturing companies to do the same. General Motors announced in January it will go mostly electric by 2035. Kerry said that's great news, but the country will need to transition to clean energy much faster and this will both create and cut jobs. He also said there's been too little action and too much hot air.

"There is no room for B.S. anymore. There's no faking it on this one," Kerry said.

The Biden administration has now rejoined the Paris Agreement and is expected to announce a much more ambitious emissions target by Earth Day in April. Then later this year all the countries that signed the Paris accords will meet again and formalize their new targets. The overall goal is to get to net-zero emissions by 2050.


metmike: No room for B.S. anymore?  If that's the case, then it's because the climate crisis  B.S. reservoir has been completely filled up for quite awhile.

                climate worries            

                            5 responses |                

                Started by GunterK - Feb. 18, 2021, 2:18 p.m.      

      https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65794/

By metmike - Feb. 21, 2021, 11:22 p.m.
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Here are a couple more comments:


https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63970/#64566


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NG 2/10/21 

 By Jim_M - Feb. 16, 2021, 12:07 p.m. 

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I wonder what the greenies come back is going to be when fossil fuel supporters point to people freezing in Texas because windmills froze, combined with the rolling blackouts that California had last summer when it got so hot.  Hard to charge those electric cars in either situation, let alone trying to stay alive when it's so cold outl  

Re: NG 2/10/21 


By metmike - Feb. 16, 2021, 12:48 p.m. 

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Their comeback is that this was caused by global warming/climate change and is even more reason for us to get rid of fossil fuels, so that this kind of extreme weather will go away.................100% seriously.

                Global warming causes everything            

                            Started by metmike - Feb. 16, 2021, 1:06 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65704/



                NG and electric shortage            

                            10 responses |        

                Started by wglassfo - Feb. 15, 2021, 2:10 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65672/

By metmike - Feb. 21, 2021, 11:26 p.m.
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This reminds me of what Obama and his climate change czar, John Holdren stated the last time we had a visit from the polar vortex(of course, from climate change even though it happened with the most frequency, during the 1960's/70's, when we had global cooling.


“Breathtaking”: The White House Releases Its Climate Heavy Hitter on the Polar Vortex

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/john-holdren-video-polar-vortex/



He then describes how, in fact, climate change could make extreme winter weather in the mid-latitudes more common. “A growing body of evidence suggests that the kind of extreme cold being experienced by much of the United States as we speak is a pattern that we can expect to see with increasing frequency as global warming continues,” Holdren asserts. Watch it:



By metmike - Feb. 21, 2021, 11:31 p.m.
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This is one of my favorites.............from 32 years ago:


U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 29, 1989

https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

   UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. 

   Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP. 

   He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control. 

   As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday. 

   Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study. 

   ″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said. 

   UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone. 

   Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands, while the Soviet Union could reap bumper crops if it adapts its agriculture in time, according to a study by UNEP and the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis. 

   Excess carbon dioxide is pouring into the atmosphere because of humanity’s use of fossil fuels and burning of rain forests, the study says. The atmosphere is retaining more heat than it radiates, much like a greenhouse. 

   The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown."


None of that happened and they just keep saying that it will and that its worse than they predicted , year after year after year.


By metmike - Feb. 21, 2021, 11:39 p.m.
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So they were telling us that temps would rise by 1 to 7 degrees by the year 2019 from the temp in 1989.


Let's check to see how much they  did actually  increase on the real planet earth(not the computer simulated earth):

UAH Global Temperature Update for January 2021: +0.12 deg. C (new base period)

https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_January_2021_v6.jpg


The Version 6.0 global average lower tropospheric temperature (LT) anomaly for January, 2021 was +0.12 deg. C, down a little from the December, 2020 value of +0.15 deg. C. 

The linear warming trend since January, 1979 remains at +0.14 C/decade (+0.12 C/decade over the global-averaged oceans, and +0.18 C/decade over global-averaged land).

By metmike - Feb. 21, 2021, 11:52 p.m.
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We didn't do much to cut fossil fuels  since they predicted an  apocalypse back in 1989, if we didn't drastically cut back.

But there has been real climate change since then(from the beneficial warming and CO2 that has created the climate optimum). 

As Mr. massive faker, John Kerry says we can't fake it.........then lies his arse off, using nothing but WORDS.....the authentic science based on empirical data/irrefutable evidence tells us the truth.

And so called "deniers" like metmike, who have the truth........get censored.

You will never see any of this authentic science on the MSM. 


                Optimal CO2 for life more than double current level            

                            14 responses |            

                Started by metmike - Dec. 15, 2020, 8:03 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62784/

 

By metmike - Feb. 22, 2021, 1:02 a.m.
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There is NO CLIMATE CRISIS!  It's a climate optimum that we're having on this greening planet. I would bet John Kerry 1 million bucks that in 2030, if CO2 continues to increase that the planet will be even greener yet............and give him 10 to 1 odds.

It's such no brainer authentic science.

The 100% real reason that John Kerry and others, like AOC have this position and always use the year 2030 is this:

Transforming our world: the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development

https://sdgs.un.org/2030agenda


I am extremely for helping the less fortunate/poor in our world....... and there are  a billion people on this planet that don't even have enough clean water to drink!

I am very much for less REAL pollution.

I am very much for conserving natural resources(cutting back on overconsumption in the rich countries).

I am for alternative, clean energy sources........that make sense.  Reliable, abundant and cheap.


But I am not for hijacking climate science, making up a climate crisis and even rewriting climate history to do those things.

We must use the truth and hold people accountable for telling the truth. 


People have the right to know the truth and should not be tricked into following a plan for global socialism and wealth redistribution. They should be given the option to choose the path we take  and not tricked to do things because they are very afraid of a made up climate crisis...........that only exists on worst case computer model simulations.

Even the average solutions have been over 50% too warm and are very busted....but they continue to use the most extreme/warmest solutions and even present those as not being warm enough in some cases.