Nobody is paying attention to what is happening in Eastern Europe
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Started by GunterK - April 2, 2021, 10:47 p.m.

Everybody is watching the Floyd trial, or debating lockdowns and mask wearing…. and nobody seems to pay any attention to the developments in Eastern Europe… a confrontation with Russia. The MSM is not mentioning it.

Just a few days ago, Biden insulted Putin personally, in a way no other president of our time has spoken of the leader of another country. The US is also supplying the Ukraine with military equipment, and If I am not mistaken, also has hinted aboyt the US readiness to involve US troops.

I don’t want to blame Pres Biden for this. I really don’t believe he is the “acting” leader of the country… I believe he his doing what his handlers (whoever they are) are telling him to do.

Russia has responded by moving lots of troops and equipment close to the Ukrainian border.

It sure looks to me, like somebody is trying to start WW3

Minor border clashes can quickly turn into a major war, and if nukes are involved, it would be the end for all of us.

At the core of this clash is the Crimea. Putin has already stated that they will never give up the Crimea… and I can understand why.

 a) The Crimea contains Sevastopol, Russia’s only warm-water seaport, which gives them access to the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic.

 b) Crimea’s population is mostly Russian.

The Crimea has been home and a cultural center for the ancestors of the Russian people as early as the 10th Century.

The peninsula, over the centuries, was invaded by several waves of other ethnic groups. For many years it was part of the Ottoman Turk empire. In 1774, the end of the Russian/Turk war, Russia regained control over the Crimea.

When Stalin came to power, he removed most of the non-Russian population from the Crimea.

In 1954, Nikita Khrushchev gave the Crimea to the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic. I don’t know why he did so.

In 2014, the people of the Crimea voted to secede from the Ukraine and re-join Russia.

As Putin said… they will never give up the Crimea. IMHO, it’s not a good idea for the US to mess with this issue. But then, we, the People, have no control over such things.

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By GunterK - April 2, 2021, 10:55 p.m.
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I gorgot to mention that NATO is also part of this confrontation with Russia.. another reason for Russia to display more military power..

By bear - April 2, 2021, 11:24 p.m.
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not sure how this will play out,  but,  remember there is a second pipeline being laid in the baltic so that germany can buy more gas from russia. 

europe is setting itself up to be even more dependent on energy from russia.  so, does nato really have the backbone to stand up to russia on any issue?  

By GunterK - April 3, 2021, 12:07 a.m.
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You are quite correct about that gas pipeline. A huge portion of Europe gets their gas from Russia. The new Nord Strom line has the US upset, because it would make Germany even more dependent on Russia.

Maybe, this is the underlying reason to stir up conflict and dragging NATO into it.Of course, the European NATO countries would be unable to fight off Russia.. It would be the US, to do most of the fighting.

BTW... NATO was founded shortly after WW2. Their goal was to establish a military alliance of nations, to defend against attacking nations. If I am not mistaken, what they worried about was an attack from Russia, or an attack from a recovered Germany.

Germany quickly became a member nation. After that, NATO was basically a military alliance whose function it is to keep Russia in check.


By TimNew - April 3, 2021, 7:02 a.m.
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Say what you will about Biden,  but I've yet to see him make a tweet or say anything mean... Well, other than about Putin, and we all know that Putin stole the 2016 US election, so he deserves it!!

The US has spoken, and we obviously made the right choice.

By GunterK - April 3, 2021, 11:26 a.m.
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yes, you are quite right... life in the US is finally back to normal, as he had promised.

It's all quiet at our Southern border... and no more mean tweets, as you said. (well, once in while, he calls people "dog-faced pony soldiers".)

If he could just put Putin in his place. After all that 2016 election meddling, now they are messing with Hunter's laptop, putting all kinds of bad things on it.. 

By TimNew - April 3, 2021, 11:51 a.m.
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Those Russians continue to prove they will stop at nothing.   What they did to poor Hunter's laptop was the last straw for me.  Who knew they were that tecnologically advanced with photo-shop?  What other filthy skills do they possess?  

By metmike - April 3, 2021, 11:56 a.m.
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Thanks Gunter, for bringing this to our attention.

I've not been watching this at all.

This comment of yours gave me a chuckle though:

"Just a few days ago, Biden insulted Putin personally, in a way no other president of our time has spoken of the leader of another country."

5 times Trump lobbed insults at world leaders

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/5-times-trump-lobbed-insults-at-world-leaders

Here’s A List Of Countries And Leaders Trump Has Insulted Since His Election

No country is safe, it seems.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-insult-foreign-countries-leaders_n_59dd2769e4b0b26332e76d57


Donald Trump's Biggest Insults to World Leaders in 2018, From Threats of War to Throwing Candy

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-biggest-insults-world-leaders-2018-1273155

What has President Trump said about your country?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39732845

By wglassfo - April 3, 2021, 12:03 p.m.
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Not to mention China bi2ch slapping Biden at the Alaska summit

I just hope we survive the Biden administration policies

The tough guy stance is no match for china and russia

People are focused on the price of houses and increases in building materials

Home building prices and materials is the  crisis

By metmike - April 3, 2021, 12:03 p.m.
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So I would not try to make a position that Biden did something unprecedented...........when Trump was the modern day leader who excelled at doing this for 4 years............in fact, it defined him.


However, we can say that it's the opposite of what is expected of Biden based on him having the nice guy image and it's very bad for relations with Russia.....which may actually be WHY he's being advised/instructed to posture this way:

                Hostility rises between Biden, Putin            

                            Started by metmike - March 19, 2021, 1:18 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/66831/