Biden and impeachment
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Started by mcfarm - Sept. 1, 2021, 3:19 p.m.

wow that did not take long. Just a few days ago I posted I was sick of impeachment and what it has done to the country. Then Biden pulls what could be described as the most idiotic act by a President in history and then comes out an flat lies about it  in his explanation. Yes this is easily impeachable. 13 dead and more to come . Leaving
Americans behind on the battle field. 100. 200. 500. 5000 who the hell knows. Allowing Afgahns who were supposed to go thru a 2 year security check into this country with not one second of vetting. now they are spread across this country and if one fire cracker goes off and is connected to any of those unvetted people or if just one of them is found to have  contagious disease. Leaving billions and billions of armament for the terrorists in afghan. So if we impeachment Biden and who would care at this point except the those in his inner circle, I say lets also impeach Harris for all the same reasons and let Pelosi finish the term and elect new leadership I n 2022 and 2024.

Damn what a God awful mess that could of been avoided

Edit...the phone call how could I forget. So a transcript of a phone call between Biden and the Pres of Afgan has surfaced.  And you think the call Biden made last year to get the prosecutor fired for investigating Hunter was bad thus one is worse. Seems the afgan told Biden things were collapsing. Biden said yes but even if it not the truth we need a new narrative that things are great. And if you back me on this I will fund the air strikes, the afgan army and your pockets. So Biden should of been jailed for the first call. For the second seems impeached, jailed and firing squad might be in order.

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2021, 4:41 a.m.
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"Biden pulls what could be described as the most idiotic act by a President in history and then comes out an flat lies about it to in his explanation."

You must have forgotten what Trump did after he lost to Biden.

By mcfarm - Sept. 2, 2021, 7:32 a.m.
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since Trump lost to Biden just how could of pulled the idiotic stunt in Presidential history? And by the way buried in some page 20 story under the obits it was released recently that the FBI found no communication, no collusion, no deep seeded planning by any of those at the capitol on Jan 6th. So how could of been an "insurrection" as the libs the msm and that cop who shot an unarmed women without warning have all stated. Well not to mention most every protestor had not one weapon. Not to mention Trumps words of "peacefully protest" As for the counting of votes we have been down that road plenty. And as was there goal, the libs did many underhanded things that still have not been completely washed out. So Hillary does her little protests it great, Gore makes a complete mockery out of a recount and its wonderful. The Kennedy clan steal an election outright and not a word....but that damn Trump he is quite the character even when he is beaten he did the most idiotic thing in Presidential history. And I do not need to hear he was in office til Jan 20th and was laying mischief the entire time.

In fact during that time Trump was busy forming the outline of our withdrawl from Afghan which had the idiot Biden of followed none of the above impeachable acts by him would of ever happened. Imagine that....... Trump again with the policy answers and then those too deaf to hear it.

By madmechanic - Sept. 2, 2021, 12:36 p.m.
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I know I don't get into politics around here but I felt compelled to chime in on this one.

The media and masses can call for impeachment all day but from what I've noticed over the last couple presidencies is that no matter how egregious the infraction was, nothing is ever going to happen.

The major parties protect their own and official investigations get relegated the back-burner after media coverage dies down.

I personally lost faith in any hope of any justice being served against a politician after Hillary Clinton was able to walk away from the Benghazi disaster AND her use of an illegal email server. Nothing. Ever. Happened.

EDIT: I find it amusing that Biden is placing quite a bit of blame for this rushed pullout on "the previous administration making a deal with the Taliban" and that Biden feels that he has to honor this agreement. Just like he honored Trump's withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord by going back into it. Or how Biden honored Trump's border wall by stopping it's construction (although as I understand it Biden had no authority to stop the wall construction as the project and funds allocated were approved by act of congress). Or how Biden honored trump's approval of the Keystone oil pipeline project by stopping that project, causing the vast majority of the workers to lose their jobs. But withdrawing from Afghanistan was an agreement that Biden had to honor.

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2021, 1:27 p.m.
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Excellent points madmechanic and good objective observation.

I think that based on this, any impeachment attempt here would be 100% political and would divide our country up with even more hate and accomplish nothing. 

But its politics as mm notes, each party is going to back their people and the democrats have control right now. If Hillary was not held accountable for her infractions, why would Biden?

Hillary did some illegal stuff and lied and she got away with it.

For Biden here, he would have a couple of cases for defense. 

1. He could actually say that he's just following thru with Trump's actions as mm noted (hypocritical or not, based on all his other actions as presiden, this is where Trump was headed). 

2. He could also say that the consequences of the pull out were not predictable and nobody would have expected everything to be perfect.

3. He(or his advisors) may have messed up badly on the exit strategy but most people agree that the actual exit was a good thing............which another case to make.

We've had quite a few democrats and non republicans criticize him over his bad exit strategy. However, as mm stated, if you go to an extreme and try to impeach, those same democrats will circle the wagons and totally disagree that it was egregious enough to remove him from office.............and it will backfire.

The American public will NOT agree that this calls for impeachment. They are sick of the impeachment crap that got us nowhere under Trump and I'm certain, that it will make the republicans look biased and political more than it will make Biden look like he should be impeached.

It will hurt the Republicans the most. 

I respect your position on this mcfarm but I think that trying to impeach a president every time they make a big mistake or do something bad is wrong.  He was elected  by the people and not with the understanding that he would not make any blunders. 

The bar was lowered for the first 2 impeachment attempts of Trump and now, republicans think, with the other guy in office, it's their turn to do the same thing. There were calls for Obama and Bush to be impeached too for a couple of things that went nowhere, but  I think after we really did do it with Trump, now the bar has been dropped too low.

This is just my opinion but I think the republicans can get far more traction, from more people by NOT impeaching and leaving it out there for people to make own judgement.

Here's a good analogy.  In a court of law, a prosecutor is only going to charge an offender with a crime and penalty that he can get a jury to agree with a unanimous guilty verdict on.

If a person killed their spouse because they were having a huge argument and they blew up, would you go for premeditated murder and the death penalty,  when the evidence is not there? You risk having a not guilty verdict. They go for a lesser degree of murder that can be proved,  to get the, for sure guilty verdict. 

Impeachment is the death penalty for Biden. The prosecutors(republicans) will never be able to show this as an impeachable offense and it will backfire and some people(the jurors of public opinion)  will see him as being over charged for the crime and actually defend him against those over charging him. 

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2021, 1:40 p.m.
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Mitch McConnell: No, Joe Biden won't get impeached in wake of Afghanistan exit

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Wednesday frankly dismissed the notion that President Joe Biden could be impeached in the wake of America's controversial withdrawal from Afghanistan.

"Well, look, the president's not going to be removed from office," he said during a visit to Pikeville. "It's a Democratic House, a narrowly Democratic Senate. That's not going to happen." 

His comments Wednesday came after some congressional Republicans suggestedBiden should be impeached over his handling of the U.S. military's withdrawal from Afghanistan and the Taliban's quick takeover.

By mcfarm - Sept. 2, 2021, 3:33 p.m.
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McConnell is a goof. Nearly as big a goof as Biden. Dollars to donuts he has not even heard the transcript of the phone call. Just like many of our good people in congress too damn busy getting rich.

By bear - Sept. 8, 2021, 3:54 p.m.
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if you mention impeachment to biden, he would probably ask...

did you say peach ice cream, or mint ice cream ???

or maybe he would think it is still 2017, and we are talking about possibly impeaching trump...

By metmike - Sept. 8, 2021, 4:13 p.m.
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I feel very embarrassed for him at times.

Chris Reed: Media should treat confused Joe Biden like it treated confused Ronald Reagan

By metmike - Sept. 8, 2021, 4:16 p.m.
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This is one of those embarrassing times: