Climate Propaganda Causing ‘Climate Despair’
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Started by metmike - Sept. 7, 2021, 12:59 a.m.

Report: Mental Health Concern over ‘Climate Despair’ Sweeps Nation

by PENNY STARR 5 Sep 2021

Some people are so upset over climate change they are suffering from mental health concerns considered “climate despair,” a new Washington Post report said.

The devastating and deadly Hurricane Ida has energized activists, including the Post, which published a lengthy piece that claims “more people than ever could experience serious challenges to their mental health as a result” of climate change.

The Post reported on what it refers to as “climate despair”:

By metmike - Sept. 7, 2021, 1:01 a.m.
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By metmike - Sept. 7, 2021, 5:50 p.m.
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    Mike Maguire


        September 6, 2021 10:12 pm


With regards to hurricane Ida and climate change:

The severe storms and extreme rains in the Northeast were especially caused by the -NAO,
cold upper level trough in Southeast Canada that extended down to the Northeastern US.

It picked up the remnants of Ida and destabilized the air mass.



    Anthony Banton


                    Reply to             Mike Maguire        

        September 7, 2021 12:05 pm


It may well have done. But the precipitation water content had it’s source in the GoM.



   Mike Maguire


                Reply to             Anthony Banton        

        September 7, 2021 2:45 pm


“It may well have done. But the precipitation water content had it’s source in the GoM.”

Yes Anthony. That’s why I dialed in a 7% increase in the rain amounts vs a system from 100 years ago/ 1 deg. cooler, all things being equal.

However, you overlook the fact that oceans cover over 2/3rds of the planet and almost all the moisture everywhere, all the time in the atmosphere comes from them.

Yet it’s only raining or snowing in a small % of that area because it takes areas of rising motion caused by weather systems and wind to generate the rain or snow. A cold weather pattern was the system that caused it this time(-NAO cold upper level trough)

With that being the case, its scientifically dishonest to say that climate change caused this because climate change is caused by global warming and this weather pattern, featured an anti warming pattern(-NAO). 

The accurate and honest way to describe it is that climate change likely increased the amount of rains this natural weather system generated  by 7%………….based on the 1 deg. C warmer air holding that much more moisture. 

The current reporting of the event, gives one the impression that none of it would have happened without climate change. How about 93% as bad without climate change.

Of course damage from excessive rains doesn’t go up linearly with increasing rain totals, so maybe the damage is more than 7% more?
The first 2 inches, for instance, likely don’t cause many issues. Every inch you add to that, causes an increasing amount of damage in some cases but each case is different.

Here’s an article that you will like:

Half of the Year’s Rain Falls on Earth in Just 12 Days

By metmike - Sept. 7, 2021, 5:59 p.m.
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There are a couple of items that I disagree with in this study but I agree with the general assumption that extremely heavy rain events WILL increase when the atmosphere is warmer and holds more moisture.

It's around 7% more water vapor for saturation with every 1 deg. increase in the temperature based on the well measured physics/meteorology:

Half of the Year’s Rain Falls on Earth in Just 12 Days

That is, 50 percent of Earth's rain, snow and ice each year falls in the 12 wettest days, according to a new study. The deluges are likely to become even more concentrated by the end of the century, researchers reported Oct. 19 in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. Researchers already know that climate change will likely lead to an overall increase in precipitation, study leader Angeline Pendergrass, a scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, Colorado, said in a statement. The new study suggests that this extra rain will fall in the least helpful way possible.

"What we found is that the expected increases happen when it's already the wettest — the rainiest days get rainier," Pendergrass said. [The 10 Driest Places on Earth]

 Increasing extremes

Climate scientists have long been concerned that the increase in global average temperatures will cause weather events that are more extreme. Warmer air can hold more moisture, and a different study, published Nov. 14, found that today's hurricanes are already wetter due to climate change.

The scientists found, instead, that a whopping 75 percent of the world's precipitation falls in approximately a month's time (the wettest 30 days, spread across the year). Twelve and a half percent of annual precipitation falls in just two days. And the wettest single day of the year accounts for 8.3 percent of the year's total.

Regionally, this tendency for a lot of wetness in only a short period of time is most obvious in dry, desert environments, the researchers found. China and southeastern Russia are right in the middle, and "wet" places like the northeastern United States show the most even distribution of precipitation.

Globally, the wettest day of summer accounts for 5.2 percent of the year's precipitation, while the wettest day of winter is a little drier, at 3.4 percent of the annual precipitation budget.

By metmike - Sept. 7, 2021, 6:47 p.m.
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    Mike Maguire


                Reply to             Mike Maguire        

        September 7, 2021 3:45 pm


Speaking of being scientifically honest……….and objective.

For most life on this greening planet, the current climate is a climate OPTIMUM, not a crisis.
That will be the case for at least another 2 deg.C warmer.
There will be slightly heavier rains, some slightly stronger hurricanes and slightly hotter heat waves. That’s all we hear about.

If we took the climate back to where it was 100 years ago, with 100 ppm less CO2 and -1 deg C from where it is in 2021, you would know real fast just how wonderful the current climate OPTIMUM is.
Crop production would plunge at least 20% just from the loss of the CO2(around -1% for every -5 ppm CO2) and the colder temps would cause shorter growing seasons-later planting and earlier killing freezes and yes, more droughts/less rains in the growing season.

Global food supplies would be drawn down to nothing, with the markets going into a rationing mode. Food prices would at least triple, possibly a billion people would starve within 3-5 years.

However, we would have 7% less rain in high end rain events like this last one in the Northeast…………..saving, how many lives? Many thousands on the planet in 5 years?

Which one is more important?

Obviously, we don’t have the option of going back to the 1921 climate(thank God) but climate change has been much more beneficial than detrimental to life. 

The media and governments dwell on the negative impacts of climate change and completely ignore the much more important benefits.