metmike: If it were any other group, I would say that fear of getting COVID could have been a big factor, as many of them are likely unvaccinated still but the history of Trumps rallies in the middle of the pandemic, BEFORE the vaccines(big COVID spreading events) indicates that most of his followers don't think that way.
Regardless, that surely kept some smart people away...............oh, wait, that's not the reason.
Mike, I have a hard time regarding 5,406 people at this event as sparse. Although granted not nearly as many as when he was running. How many were at Bidens last paid event? Even if they lowered tickets to $40 each after starting at $100 to $1000 that's still a good haul. But I still hope he doesn't run again.
I'm just reporting the news of the numbers on the event.
To me, it's scary as heck that people would pay hundreds of dollars to see this(and I'm like you, that is a big number).......though I always liked Bill O'reilly a great deal and was sorry to see him go.
Mike looking back using data from 1point 3 acres I do not see correlation between trump rallies and ccp cases. Remember the rallies were held outside.
I do not see correlation between this year's football and ccp cases. Also held outside.
In fact I don't see correlation with the summer riots. Also held outside.
This observation is just studying the chart of new cases and estimates of when these happened. Football is the most obvious case to me.
We investigate the effects of large group meetings on the spread of COVID-19 by studying the impact of eighteen Trump campaign rallies. To capture the effects of subsequent contagion within the pertinent communities, our analysis encompasses up to ten post-rally weeks for each event. Our method is based on a collection of regression models, one for each event, that capture the relationships between post-event outcomes and pre-event characteristics, including demographics and the trajectory of COVID-19 cases, in similar counties. We explore a total of 24 procedures for identifying sets of matched counties. For the vast majority of these variants, our estimate of the average treatment effect across the eighteen events implies that they increased subsequent confirmed cases of COVID-19 by more than 250 per 100,000 residents. Extrapolating this figure to the entire sample, we conclude that these eighteen rallies ultimately resulted in more than 30,000 incremental confirmed cases of COVID-19. Applying county-specific post-event death rates, we conclude that the rallies likely led to more than 700 deaths (not necessarily among attendees).
Note: Funding: This project did not make use of external funding. Expenses were covered by Professor Bernheim's unrestricted research account, provided by Stanford University.
Declaration of Interests: The authors have no relevant or material financial interests that relate to the research described in this paper.
In case you want to blame the MSM or blame the scientists doing the study(s) or politicians for this evidence as being biased against Trump........metmike was mostly in a Trump defending position during that time on many issues(as I was a Trump supporter until he did what he did after the election)........but on that issue, I made half a dozen clearly worded statements condemning Trump for spreading COVID at these rallies.
The reality is that everybody, everywhere knew and knows that these were COVID spreading events........except for the most loyal Trump supporters in total denial.
Rose Garden Super spreader event
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Started by wglassfo - Oct. 8, 2020, 11:53 a.m. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59858/
Trump rally in Oklahoma
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Started by metmike - June 17, 2020, 7:42 p.m.
"metmike: "Personally, I think this is a very bad decision by President Trump to have a rally right now.
The facility has a capacity of around 19,000 people and I believe they will be seated closer than 6 feet from each other and probably many not wearing masks and this is indoors and many will be shouting. This is an ideal environment for several infected people to spew massive amounts of virus around them and infect numerous other people.
Very bad judgement!"
Tucker Carlson calls Dr Fauci a fraud...
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Started by GunterK - Aug. 1, 2020, 7:36 p.m.
"metmike:"Some of this is Trumps fault of course.
"We've discussed his decision to have the rally in OK countless times, which I refer to as the dumbest decision by any president in history(that I can think of)."
Trump-another massive event during pandemic
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Started by metmike - July 3, 2020, 11:04 p.m.
By metmike - Aug. 2, 2020, 11:43 p.m.
"Those that hate Trump, can't see anything except everything is Trumps fault.
Some of this is Trumps fault of course.
We've discussed his decision to have the rally in OK countless times, which I refer to as the dumbest decision by any president in history(that I can think of)."
On the protesting spreading COVID:
Covering up massive COVID being spread from protests-8/8 update below
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Started by metmike - July 30, 2020, 7:28 p.m.
Double standard of liberals between COVID and riots
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Started by WxFollower - June 2, 2020, 1:56 p.m.