Stalin's show trials.
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Started by TimNew - June 22, 2022, 7:34 a.m.

An interesting read...

Joseph Stalin' Show Trials: A Short Summary - History (

Prominent Americans could even be found to defend Stalin show trials, a spectacle of political theater so transparent that it would have taken genuine effort not to see through it. In order to terrorize Communist Party members into absolute submission and at the same time eliminate potential rivals, Stalin put on a series of high-profile trials in which prominent Communists confessed to treachery against the Soviet Union. In some cases, people were coaxed into making these confessions by threats against their families if they refused. One by one some of the most loyal Communists, dating back to the days of the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution, solemnly admitted to counterrevolutionary activity. George Orwell could hardly have improved on this eerie and macabre spectacle.

Yet there were those on the American Left who supported Stalin and vouched for the authenticity of the trials. In 1938, some 150 Americans prominent in the entertainment industry signed a statement in support of the verdicts reached in “the recent Moscow trials.”

By metmike - June 22, 2022, 10:32 a.m.
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If there's supposed to be a connection here, Tim I'm totally missing it and you'll have to give us a bit more to go on.

If you suddenly developed an interest in the life of Joseph, thanks for sharing!

By mcfarm - June 22, 2022, 11:45 a.m.
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not going to speak for one of the best and brightest posters here but come on MM. You don't think after all these years the libs have made their plan all to obvious and copied the moves of most every commy/socialists

By metmike - June 22, 2022, 11:52 a.m.
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So make the connection for me please, mcfarm.

Are the very informative, entirely evidenced based Jan 6th hearings with information that all Americans have a right to know,  supposed to be related somehow or am I guessing wrong?

Fox refusing to show the hearings reminds me the most about communism. ....but maybe this isn't the point.

Please help me to understand.

By 7475 - June 22, 2022, 1:58 p.m.
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An interesting and entertaining novel which illustrates life in Russia during our cold war decades is :


   author :   Sana Krasikov

By mcfarm - June 22, 2022, 5:28 p.m.
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MM, seems you and Tim had along and detailed debate about that very issue and if you did not get it after that you will not get it now

By metmike - June 22, 2022, 5:45 p.m.
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Thanks for the response it's  still a mystery and I'm not capable of understanding it, so why bother explaining it.

Maybe somebody else would like to take a stab at it, please.

By joj - June 23, 2022, 8:28 a.m.
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Just a hunch here MM.  Tim is perhaps attempting to connect the monstrous show trials of Stalin with the Jan 6th committee.  As if holding someone accountable for their crimes is somehow equal to Stalin's ruthless purges.

Or perhaps I'm mistaken.  He might just be taking a walk down memory lane.   The left was certainly on the wrong side of history on that one.  Just like the right was on the wrong side of history on the women's vote, worker rights/safety, Social security, McCarthyism, Civil rights, etc... etc....

And the right commonly pulls out the canard that Democrats are actually communists.  They tried to make MLK jr out to be an agent of communism.  AOC is a commie, Pelosi is a commie, Biden is a commie.  It's true!  I saw it on Fox News!

By cutworm - June 23, 2022, 11:03 a.m.
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Every fox viewer knows, was told, that the hearings are broadcast on other channels. Just change the channel.

Having different viewpoints and different questions discussed is how the truth comes out. 

Did the channels that are broadcasting the Jan 6 investigation (show trail) tell us to watch fox to get info about the infamous laptop. No, they totally ignored it. So, there was no discussion possible till too late. 

So, if you are told that the hearings are taking place on another channel but, this channel is presenting another view, I don't see the censorship. 

By metmike - June 23, 2022, 11:06 a.m.
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Thanks joj!

I was wondering if that might be it too but the connection seems pretty far fetched and wanted it confirmed........which it still isn't.

You are right about all those past events with each party having its own embarrassing, being on the wrong side of the issue, historical events.

Neither political party has a franchise on the truth.

If you believe one party all the will believe in lies some of the time.

By WxFollower - June 23, 2022, 1:02 p.m.
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cutworm said:

"Did the channels that are broadcasting the Jan 6 investigation (show trail) tell us to watch fox to get info about the infamous laptop. No, they totally ignored it. So, there was no discussion possible till too late. 

So, if you are told that the hearings are taking place on another channel but, this channel is presenting another view, I don't see the censorship."


cutworm and others,

 The Hunter Biden laptop issue clearly needs to be investigated imo and shouldn't have been ignored assuming that's truly the case. Based on cutworm's logic because of this, Fox News not showing the first 1/6/22 hearing and instead having far right commentators giving their interpretations of 1/6/22 is not at all a bad thing.

But I fail to see the connection between Hunter's laptop not being covered enough by non-Fox channels and Fox News far right commentators airing their interpretations of the first day of hearings about 1/6/22 instead of airing the hearings live to allow the viewer to hear them directly. What am I missing?

By metmike - June 23, 2022, 1:44 p.m.
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Your not missing anything logical Larry.

There are several things going on here to these 2, completely unrelated situations.

Rationalization is a defense mechanism (ego defense) in which apparent logical reasons are given to justify behavior that is motivated by unconscious instinctual impulses.[1] It is an attempt to find reasons for behaviors, especially ones own.[2] Rationalizations are used to defend against feelings of guilt, maintain self-respect, and protect oneself from criticism.

Rationalization happens in two steps:

  1. A decision, action, judgement is made for a given reason, or no (known) reason at all.
  2. A rationalization is performed, constructing a seemingly good or logical reason, as an attempt to justify the act after the fact (for oneself or others).

Rationalization encourages irrational or unacceptable behavior, motives, or feelings and often involves ad hoc hypothesizing.


False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1] Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges."


metmike: This definition below, mainly refers to people that have developed a pathological affliction in doing it. In this case, it's more a function of watching Fox news and believing everything they broadcast/tell them to believe.

Apophenia (/æpˈfniə/) is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things.[1] The term (German: Apophänie from  the Greek verb ἀποφαίνειν (apophaínein)) was coined by psychiatrist Klaus Conrad in his 1958 publication on the beginning stages of schizophrenia.[2] He defined it as "unmotivated seeing of connections [accompanied by] a specific feeling of abnormal meaningfulness".[3][4] He described the early stages of delusional thought as self-referential over-interpretations of actual sensory perceptions, as opposed to hallucinations.[1][5]

Apophenia has also come to describe a human propensity to unreasonably seek patterns in random information, such as can occur while gambling.[4]

By metmike - June 23, 2022, 6:51 p.m.
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mcfarm is saying the same thing on another thread about Hunter Biden to establish a false equivalency to justify Fox censoring the hearings.

This is what extreme anti censorship Tim had to say about it:

"When one network chooses not to air something that is being covered by every other broadcaster in the country, that's hardly censorship. That's good business."

I'm just copying stuff that you guys actually say here. Do you ever read it back and question if it makes sense or not before sending it or are you all programmed to respond like Fox/far right  clones that say the exact same things about the same topics?

By cutworm - June 23, 2022, 8:22 p.m.
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WX thanks for the reply.

My intended point was about censorship, not to tie the 2 events together. I used these 2 events only because they are well known. The way that non fox media handled the hunter case was to hide it. Fox noted that you could see the hearing on other channels. Fox did not hide it as they told you the other media was covering it. There is a big difference. 

I guess we have to agree to disagree


By metmike - June 23, 2022, 9:56 p.m.
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"Fox did not hide it as they told you the other media was covering it."

Actually, cutworm what happened was that with Hunter Biden, the MSM censored it and said it was a Russian hoax or right wing conspiracy theory, to discredit the story by the right.... when Fox, NY Post and others covered it

With the January 6th hearings, FOX DID THE EXACT SAME THING.  They censored it and told their viewers it was a kangaroo court and bogus and gave their own DISinformation version of what was going on to discredit them exactly like the MSM did to censor Hunter Biden's laptop story.

I watched them cutworm. That's exactly what they did.

The most hypocritical part of it is that Fox and the right are supposed to be for no censorship and THEY criticized the left for censoring the Hunter laptop story and for Twitter censorship and censorship of Trumps at several sites ........but that's EXACTLY what they've been doing with the Insurrection hearings.

You guys pretending that it's really just Fox practicing good business or as if the other stations were covering it, so Fox didn't need to is total bs.

Fox in the evenings TOTALLY CENSORED the Insurrection hearings for the sole reason doesn't line up with what they want their viewers to think.

C'mon man, at least admit it/be honest about something that's so blatantly obvious.

This is why Larry nominated this to be our post of the week:

At MarketForum we showed everything there is to show about the Hunter Biden laptop story and also about the Insurrection hearings.