Time to bring out the articles and discussions about how extreme cold is caused by or might be caused by global warming.
Global warming causes everything/TEXAS
Started by metmike - Feb. 16, 2021, 1:06 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65704/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65704/#68387
Who remembers when Obama marched out his climate czar, John Holden to do damage control when the polar vortex made a natural excursion south back in 2014 to tell us global warming caused extreme cold?
And the MSM was so excited to have one of their climate religion high priests coming out to assure them that everything was still just fine. They could still keep believing in the fake climate crisis.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/john-holdren-video-polar-vortex/
“A growing body of evidence suggests that the kind of extreme cold being experienced by much of the United States as we speak is a pattern that we can expect to see with increasing frequency as global warming continues,”
Just another, of many hundreds of examples over the past 2+ decades of extreme weather being blamed on climate change.
It's as if we never had extreme weather on the planet before CLIMATE CHANGE and accelerating global warming is causing all of it now.
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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/11/19/meuz-n19.html
"As global warming continues, extreme weather events, such as hurricanes, droughts and lake-effect snowstorms(and record cold) will become more frequent, intense and deadly with no serious response from the capitalist ruling elite."
As much of the United States plunges into a deep freeze, scientists continue to debate how rapid Arctic warming is playing a role.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/climate/polar-vortex-winter-cold-weather.html
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That was the NYT pretending to be objective and to represent authentic climate science while applying critical thinking.
Mainstream climate science? Yes, for many.
Critical thinking? Completely absent! If you or scientists are convinced that global warming causes nothing but bad things, then that's what you/they see because their brain can't recognize something that it thinks is impossible.
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How about this below for common sense, critical thinking.
All meteorologists know that the origin of the air mass transported by the jet stream to your region will determine much of its temperature and moisture characteristics when it arrives(with some modification along its journey to your backyard).
The current air mass invading the US came from Siberia.
This was explained in more detail early LAST week well before this intense cold blast hit and it was why this was so predictable so far out(more than a week before the event).
12-12-22 ALERT: Bitter cold coming!!
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91423/
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Everybody agrees with certainty, that the place which has warmed several times more than other places is the Arctic. Much of the planet has warmed less than 1 Deg. with places in the S. Hemisphere not warming much at all but the high latitudes of the N. Hemisphere have warmed by 4+ Deg. C(just like prior warmings similar to this-Medieval/Roman/Minoan Warm periods and Holocene climate optimum)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum
Of 140 sites across the western Arctic, there is clear evidence for conditions that were warmer than now at 120 sites. At 16 sites for which quantitative estimates have been obtained, local temperatures were on average 1.6±0.8 °C higher during the optimum than now. Northwestern North America reached peak warmth first, from 11,000 to 9,000 years ago, but the Laurentide Ice Sheet still chilled eastern Canada. Northeastern North America experienced peak warming 4,000 years later. Along the Arctic Coastal Plain in Alaska, there are indications of summer temperatures 2–3 °C warmer than now.[9] Research indicates that the Arctic had less sea ice than now.[10]
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https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/90279/#90286
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/why-climate-change-is-a-fraud/
This graph belows was accepted by climate science until it was hijacked by the United Nations in the 1980's for political agenda graph, with others jumping on board the CO2 gravy train. The last warm period is the Medieval Warm Period(Optimum).
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Was the Medieval WARM Period real?
See for yourself below.
For the Medieval Warm Period compared to today below:
Red balloons showed it was warmer.
Blue was colder than today(in that study)
Green was wetter/more precip
Yellow was drier
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/03/documenting-the-global-extent-of-the-medieval-warm-period/
If you go to the link below, you can hit those individual balloons and get each individual study:
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Over 100 studies from the Medieval Warm Period, most of which show the planet was this warm or warmer 1,000 years ago. It was also this warm 2,000 years ago during the Roman Warm Period and also just over 3,000 years ago, during the Minoan Warm period. Medieval Warm Period Project: http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/mwpp.php
 Where did the data from the bar graphs above come from so that we know that this is the authentic science vs the one that the MSM and dems describe with the fake climate crisis(where they can't show the data to prove)? List of Scientists Whose Work We Cite: http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/scientists.php List of Research Institutions Associated With the Work We Cite http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/institutions.php | ||
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So here's the warming this time. Note the hot spot, which is mostly from warm Winter anomalies is Siberia. The coldest places at the coldest times of year are warming the most in the N.Hemisphere.
So the obvious meteorological and climate fact is that if a place has warmed by 4 deg. C (more in Winter) then air masses from that place will also be warmer.
Arctic and Siberian air masses transported down to the US will be less cold under global warming. There's no theory about that like the one they use to trick us into believing the opposite(Arctic Amplification) as discussed in the NYT damage control article.
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What is Arctic amplification? Do we know what is causing this phenomenon? What effects is it having, both in the region and for the world?
In addition, there were many more cold intrusions like this in the 1970's towards the end of global cooling that featured the polar vortex shifting very far south.
The polar vortex has NOT increased incidents of being displaced far south of average during global warming.
Winters have become milder and air from Siberia, all things equal is milder than it would be without global warming.
Air masses coming from there, on average have not been as cold in our Winters.
But they NEVER tell us that INDISPUTABLE authentic meteorology and climate fact because there can never be discussions about weather/climate, especially temperatures that tells the truth about the benefits.
Accordingly, global warming can only cause bad things, including even more extreme cold than before.
Climate change and its extreme weather is supposed to kill more people and hurt crops......but it's the complete opposite!!!
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91499/#91529
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/03/17/planet-sized-experiments/
Figure 2. Average annual climate-related (blue line) and non-climate-related (red line) deaths in natural disasters. Data from OFDA/CRED International Disaster Database
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https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91499/#91520
This is supposed to be a man made climate crisis for growing crops:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/86882/#87765
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/87422/
A brief history of U.S. #corn yield growth since the 1860s Notable growth in yields was seen after the adoption of modern fertilizers in the 1940s, (made using fossil fuels-natural gas) which made drought years esp. in the 1980s stand out more than before (compare with 1930s Dust Bowl for example).
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Major climate crisis?
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91499/#91500
Folks that don't come here are probably wondering where I got all these graphs with empirical data that they never saw before.
There's a lot more authentic science where that came from which is being covered up:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/27864/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-022-00498-3
Here we show, by using several observational datasets which cover the Arctic region, that during the last 43 years the Arctic has been warming nearly four times faster than the globe, which is a higher ratio than generally reported in literature
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So will Arctic air be colder or warmer when the jet stream transports that Arctic air south into the US?
Somebody that believes in the climate crisis religion might respond "the reason that the Arctic is so warm in the Winter is that more warmer air from mid latitudes moves north and displaces the cold in the north, with events like this one that warm the Arctic and Siberia.
It's true that when Siberia drains much of the cold in the Winter(theres almost no sunshine, so the cold pool grows colder and colder unless dislodged) and when dislodged. there has to be air from some where to replace it, which will usually be much milder.
Look at that happening right now, in fact:
https://www.psl.noaa.gov/map/images/ens/t850anom_f024_nh.html
The reason that doesn't hold water is that we haven't actually seen an increase in Arctic fronts or air masses coming from Siberia the last several decades.
In fact, its been less than the 1970's.aa1
If Arctic Amplification caused this from global warming, then why have events like this become LESS frequent the past 3 decades and Winters milder?
Again, it's a bunch of biased people convinced that global warming only does bad things based on a religious type faith.
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If the jet stream maintained this current configuration for several more weeks(it's shifting to zonal, west to eastel3 ) then those air masses coming from Siberia would be MUCH milder because of the anomalous warm there right now.
Cold for us when it got here but NOT AS cold when Siberia is milder.
In the Summer of 2022, even flooding events that have happened on average every 25 years, have turned into 1 in 1,000 year, biblical proportion floods caused by the climate crisis from global warming with burning fossil fuels to blame.
4th time this Summer for a 1 in 1,000 year rain event
Started by metmike - Aug. 22, 2022, 7:17 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/88256/
Latest 1 in 1,000 year rain event(not)
Started by metmike - Sept. 30, 2022, 2:03 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89333/
The atmosphere at +1 Deg. can hold +7% more moisture, so there has been a slight increase in flooding, especially at higher latitudes but we should continue to understand the scientific principle behind these extreme WEATHER events.
We should keep in mind, the goldenrule of climate extremes:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/88256/
From brilliant/honest meteorologist and professor Cliff Mass: (https://environment.uw.edu/faculty/clifford-mass/)
https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-golden-rule-of-climate-extremes.html
The GoldenRule
Considering the substantial confusion in the media about this critical issue, let me provide the GOLDENRULE OF CLIMATE EXTREMES. Here it is:
The more extreme a climate or weather record is, the greater the contribution of natural variability.
Or to put it a different way, the larger or more unusual an extreme, the higher proportion of the extreme is due to natural variability.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/05/20/cold-weather-deaths/27657269/
Here's an extremely laughable version of them launching last year's 2021 snow/ice event in TX into the worst snowstorm in recorded history for the planet. Even worse than snowstorms with 10 times more snow and snow drifts of 40 feet.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/climate-weather/storms/10-biggest-snowstorms.htm
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The Great Texas Snowstorm was not even in the top 100, no less the biggest snowstorm of all time. The biggest part of the disaster was related to the failure to Winterize their energy delivery systems and over reliance on diffuse, intermittent fake green renewables, especially wind (a grid scale battery system that can store the energy efficiently has not even been invented yet) .
Manufacturing a fake intensity level like this to blame the failure on, instead of the real reason for damage control is sad.
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Mike Maguire
January 2, 2023 12:07 am
Fossil fuels have increased crop yields from boosting atmospheric fertilizer, CO2 but even more so with synthetic fertilizer in the soil (using natural gas).
Another secret about fossil fuels: Haber Bosch process-fertilizers feeding the planet using natural gas-doubling food production/crop yields.
food production/crop yields. September 2019
Mike Maguire
January 1, 2023 11:46 pm
Mainstream science has long ago abandoned the authentic scientific method.
The world, including the science world today revolves around manufactured realities.
Just make up the reality that you want people to believe in…………that most people WANT TO believe in (which is why very few people fact check any of the climate DISinformation).
Create the convincing sounding fake facts/false narratives which get repeated so many times that people accept it as the new Climate Religion.
We’re living in a climate optimum for life right now. Not in spite of CO2 but because of this beneficial gas that’s greening up the planet and causing the slight, mostly beneficial warming and best weather/climate in the past 1,000 years……..since the last time that it was this warm (Medieval Warm Period).
Some very heavy precip in areas that need precip badly.
7 Day Total precipitation below:
http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.govcdx /qpf/p168i.gif?1530796126
Drought monitor for December 27th below:
https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Maps/CompareTwoWeeks.aspx
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But to some, this is just another opportunity to sensationalize.
Exaggerate the weather and always blame a climate crisis that doesn't exist (climate change yes but we're having a climate optimum for life). Pretend that we never had extremely heavy rains, or droughts or heat waves or snowstorms that were this bad before man made climate change.
Ignore the data proving this to be the best weather/climate in the past 1,000 years….the last time it was this warm.
Ignore the earth massively greening up from the only true green energy sources and the beneficial gas, CO2 and instead, tell them it’s carbon pollution killing the planet.
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W://www.axios.com/2023/01/03/atmospheric-rivers-threaten-california-as-state-reels-from-deadly-storm
The bottom line: Climate change is adding even more moisture to atmospheric rivers, enabling them to dump higher rain and snow totals.
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Metmike: the atmosphere can hold 7% more moisture at 1 deg. c warmer.
here’s the truth about record rainfall in the US and in the world:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/29362/
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oh/hdsc/record_precip/record_precip_us.html
| USA Records-HDSC/OWP www.nws.noaa.gov Disclaimers: Some data are estimates. Not all data have been verified. "*" indicates questionable veracity. Coordinates are approximate. |
Duration Amount (in) Location Start date
1-min 1.23 Unionville, MD 4 Jul 1956
5-min 2.03 Alamogordo Creek, NM 5 Jun 1960
12-min 2.30 Embarrass, WI 28 May 1881
15-min 3.95 Galveston, TX 4 Jun 1871
30-min 7.00 Cambridge, OH 16 Jul 1914 42-min 12.0 Holt, MO 22 Jun 1947
13.8* Burnsville 6 WNW, WV 4 Aug 1943
60-min 12.0 Holt, MO 22 Jun 1947
12.0 305 Kilauea Sugar Plantation, Kauai, HI 24 Jan 1956
90-min 14.6 Burnsville 6 WNW, WV 4 Aug 1943
2-hr 15.0 Woodward Ranch (D'Hanis), TX 31 May 1935
2.17-hr 19.0 Rockport, WV 18 Jul 1889
2.75-hr 22.0 Woodward Ranch (D'Hanis), TX 31 May 1935
3-hr 28.5 Smethport, PA 18 Jul 1942
4.5-hr 30.7 Smethport, PA 18 Jul 1942
12-hr 34.3 Smethport, PA 17 Jul 1942
18-hr 36.4 Thrall, TX 9 Sep 1921
24-hr 43.0 Alvin, TX 29.42 -95.24 25 Jul 1979
3,4,5 4-day 62.0 Kukaiau, Hamakua, HI 27 Feb 1902
8-day 82.0 Kukaiau, Hamakua, HI 28 Feb 1902
1-month 149 Mt. Waialeale, Kauai, HI 1 Mar 1982
12-month 739 Kukui, Maui, HI 1 Dec 1981
How many of the all time records for rainfall in the US have occurred in the last 40 years?
Answer: 0.
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https://www.ranker.com/list/worst-floods-in-history/eric-vega?page=4
1. August 1931 Yangtze River, China 3,700,000 killed
2. September 1887 Yellow River, China 2,000,000 deaths
3. June 1938 Yellow River, China 800,000 deaths
4. August 1975 Banqiao, China 230,000 dead
5. 1935 Yangtze River 145,000 dead
6. November 1530 St. Felix Flood, Holy Roman Empire/Europe 100,000+ killed
7. August 1971, Hanoi/Red Rivers, North Vietnam 100,000 dead
8. May 1911 Jiangsu-Anhui, China 100,000 dead
9. December 1287 Holy Roman Empire/Europe 50,000+ dead
10. September 1949 Guatemala 40,000 dead
11. June 1954 Yangtze River, China 30,000 dead
12. June 1974 Bangladesh 28,700 dead
13. January 1362 St. Marcellus Flood-Ireland/Britain/N.Germany 25,000+ dead
14. November 1570 All Saints Flood Netherlands 20,000+ killed
15. December 1999 Vargas mudslides Venezuela 20,000 dead
How many of these events took place in the last 40 years?
Answer: 1
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We should keep in mind, the golden rule of climate extremes from professor cliff mass.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/88256/
https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-golden-rule-of-climate-extremes.html
The GoldenRule
Considering the substantial confusion in the media about this critical issue, let me provide the GOLDENRULE OF CLIMATE EXTREMES. Here it is:
The more extreme a climate or weather record is, the greater the contribution of natural variability.
Or to put it a different way, the larger or more unusual an extreme, the higher proportion of the extreme is due to natural variability.
Mike, feel free to move/delete this comment if you feel it doesn't uphold the spirit of this post/thread; but, I had to at least say this.
As someone who lives in California and has lived through the "deadly" storm we experienced over the last week, I find it absolutely hilarious that California complains about not having enough rain and snow fall, but then we complain when we get "too much" rain fall. I personally would rather have too much than not enough in this otherwise dry state.
That said, I get the feeling people would rather the state remain dry and in perpetual drought so they can continue to complain and blame all this on "climate crisis" instead of recognizing this is all just weather and regional ecology.
Happy New Year madmechanical engineer!
What a treat for you to drop in and make a post that hits the nail on the head!
Here's more for you:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91060/#91893
This weather pattern is suggesting to us that the current La Nina is rapidly coming to an end.
The atmosphere is taking on the El Nino signature big time!
Regardless of what the models or Pacific ocean temp profiles indicate, the atmosphere is acting just like it does when we have El Nino in the Pacific.
I've not seen this configuration for several Winters.
Look at that jet stream roaring across the Pacific. The yellow is a 200+ knot jet streak which is 240+ MPH!
You rarely see that and it's usually during El Nino's in the Pacific. It's aimed at the US, which will flood the entire US with mild, oceanic air and bombard the entire West Coast with heavy precip all the way to S.California which is typical of El Nino NOT La Nina.
To me, this signals the demise of the long lived La Nina!!
This should also bring a chance for drought relief in Argentina!
Ding, Dong the La Nina is (almost)dead, which La Nina, the 3 year old La Nina!
This will likely also mark the end of the multi year pause in the mostly beneficial global warming.
2022 was the 7th warmest year.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91894/
I predict that 2023 will be warmer with high confidence and there will likely be less drought in the US because of it.
This is a current weather radar image from 1:55 PM PST.
Mother Nature is in the process of slamming California hard. Going to be an interesting night and I'm actually looking forward to it!
Regarding Milankovitch Cycles. They are a generally accepted set of 3 geophysical/astronomical cycles that occur over various thousand year intervals. They are taught in many geology major degree coursework (a good college friend of mine earned his degree in geology and told me about them).
When you look at the 3 cycle intervals and do the math over several cycles, it becomes evident that the cycles can overlap at their extremes and the consequences for the earth in terms of climate would be significant.
The cycles describe certain changes in things like the earth's tilt angle as well as the earth's actual distance to the sun varying. If the tilt of the earth changes, that changes where the sun's energy hits the earth. If the distance from the earth to the sun changes by getting longer, that also changes the total thermal energy that the earth benefits from and will cool.
What bothers me is that the climate alarmists are absolutely convinced that the "damage" humans are doing with CO2 emissions is enough to OVERRIDE the effects of the Milankovitch cycles, and I just don't buy that. The cycles are on astronomic scales, literally and there is nothing we can do about them except be aware of them, be mindful of their impacts and do what we can to PREPARE for their effects.
Mother Nature is in the process of slamming California hard. " ☂
YA CAN'T STOP MOM NATURE, OR... EVEN CHANGE HER! CLIMATE HAS BEEN CHANGING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. IT WAS DESIGNED JUST RIGHT! GOD DON'T MAKE MISTAKES.
THE VIDEO MAKES PURE SENSE TO ME.
THANK YOU, madmechanic ✔
ABC news tonight:
"Life threatening, historic bomb cyclone"
"Widespread emergency and evacuations"
Then they went to the preparedness official doing a presentation for the public:
"This will be one of the most challenging storms in the last 5 years"
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Right, because that was AFTER the end of the last El Nino. El Nino's almost always feature storms like this in the Winter(La Nina's suppress them and cause drought).........it's their most defining feature! ABC is full of alarmist doo doo.
For those paying attention, the atmosphere is screaming to us that the La Nina is over and the weather patterns are taking on a clear El Nino response.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ni%C3%B1o
It is believed that El Niño has occurred for thousands of years.[11] For example, it is thought that El Niño affected the Moche in modern-day Peru. Scientists have also found chemical signatures of warmer sea surface temperatures and increased rainfall caused by El Niño in coral specimens that are around 13,000 years old.[12] Around 1525, when Francisco Pizarro made landfall in Peru, he noted rainfall in the deserts, the first written record of the impacts of El Niño.[12] Modern day research and reanalysis techniques have managed to find at least 26 El Niño events since 1900, with the 1982–83, 1997–98 and 2014–16 events among the strongest on record.[13][14][15]
Decided to move this reply post and use it to start a new thread with a fun title.
Great stuff MM!
