US: Russian fighter jet hits American drone
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Started by metmike - March 14, 2023, 1:34 p.m.

US: Russian fighter jet hits American drone over Black Sea


1 year after the invasion, Biden/NATO have NO PLAN on how to end the war. No negotiations.

Just keep fighting and fighting and escalating.......we must defeat matter how many people have to die or how much of Ukraine destroyed or even if it means WW-3 and nuclear war.........WE MUST DEFEAT RUSSIA!

By 12345 - March 14, 2023, 1:46 p.m.
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"environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner,” "




By metmike - March 14, 2023, 3:44 p.m.
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Exactly what I thought, Jean!

The methane released from Biden/US blowing up the Russian pipe line is 80 times more powerful than CO2(and no benefits, unlike CO2 the beneficial gas) and it was the greatest release of methane in one place at one time in the history of the human race.

I used to refer to NOT Donald Trump in the voting booth as generating the most votes.

Because the news on the Ukraine war coming from the US/The West is much more likely to be false propaganda than the truth, I automatically DON'T believe what they state.

What the heck is the matter with people who can't see what we are doing to Ukraine, the world, the US?

We're picking fights with 2 world powers, 1 that has more nuclear weapons than us and in a way that clearly is intentionally fighting a proxy war with Russia.

Russia didn't start anything with the US, they just don't want NATO taking over Ukraine.

The US is the aggressor between the  2 countries and is using blatantly false propaganda to brainwash gullible people that believe everything they say.

The US commits a heinous war crime/act of terrorism against Europe and the environment to try to hurt Russia...........and we just look the other way and continue to propagandize with retarded war justifying rationals that make it ok to kill off Ukrainians and decimate their country.

Absurdly retarded science turning our climate optimum for life on the greening planet into a crisis caused by the CO2 which is greening the planet and causing the optimum.

The solution is to push poverty causing, economy killing energy schemes via wind turbines that are the most anti environmental, anti green energy that exists.

To "save the planet" we are wrecking the planet.

By metmike - March 14, 2023, 7:19 p.m.
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Just a reminder of the complete lack of credibility about incidents like this that our side has:


By metmike - March 15, 2023, 7:36 a.m.
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As the war continues to escalate, now we have the first direct conflict between the US and Russian with both sides making accusations and issuing warnings to the other side with the US proxy war with Russia in Ukraine expanding outside of Ukraine.

the psychopath from Ukraine must be peeing his pants with glee over this because it’s exactly what he wants.

is this really what Americans want(other than the military industrial complex mentalities)?

With the President of the balloon-gate fiasco at the helm……that ended up with the US fighter jets using millions in expensive  missiles to shoot down harmless US science/weather data gathering balloons that are in our skies at high altitudes with regularity…. at This moment, we may be living in the most dangerous time in US history since the Industrial revolution.

far worse than the Cuban missile crisis necause Kennedy and company knew what they were doing and took actions to avoid war With Russia.

biden and company are not just provoking war, they have crystal clearly been actively engaged fighting  a proxy war with Russia, using Ukraine to wage it. Using the puppet zelensky who traded many millions of disrupted and dead Ukrainians that voted for him because he promised negotiations and peace with Russia…..for NATO and Western world hero worship and adulation. Decimating his own country for self serving political agenda and an over inflated ego.

with 3 loose cannons, zelensky, Biden and Putin calling the shots and refusing to negotiate with an escalating war and all of them insisting that nothing short of decisive victory will end the war…..things are looking bad with ukrainians paying the highest price.

compared to not joining NATO, which is all Putin wanted, the damages to Ukraine have been 1 trillion times worse than that.

what rational people choose this Path? What President, intentionally does this to his own people and country? What kind of people put him on a pedistole for doing it?

how long Can the brainwash last from false propaganda before the mounting disconnect with the real world jolts minds into a reality check?

hopefully soon…..before WW3 or nuclear weapons. Biden keeps saying that zelensky is calling the shots. He’s the least stable of the loose cannons and crystal clearly wants WW3.

Did zelensky tell Biden to blow up the Russian natural gas pipeline?

why are we letting zelensky lead the Great USA into WW3 with Russia?

what happened to our leadership?

2024 and US regime change can’t come soon enough. Hopefully, Putin is smart enough to see ahead and is planning on smarter people taking over that will negotiate to keep NATO out of Ukraine and avoid WW3.

the only way that Biden will pick that course is if he thinks it will generate votes.

our  absolute best chance to avoid war with Russia is if Biden is convinced that negotiating peace with Russia will get him elected for a 2nd term.

even if you disagree with everything else in this post, everybody from both sides knows that’s the truth.

Americans, speak up and stop letting false propaganda from your government and the media steal your intelligence.

too late?

maybe. We’ve become a society of people that go to their favorite political sources which tell them what to believe.

don’t forget about the 1 trillion in damage to Ukraine so far And rapidly increasing. When it’s time to rebuild, like always the US tax payer will foot a large portion of the bill.

By metmike - March 15, 2023, 12:02 p.m.
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Russian plane that took out US drone was 'out of control' and flying like it's 'amateur hour,' US official tells PBS                      

  • The US says a Russian jet clipped a US drone over the Black Sea, forcing it to crash.                     
  • A US official told PBS the Russian pilot seemed out of control, calling their actions "amateur hour."                
  • Russia denied that its jet made physical contact with the drone. The US says it has video           

Russia says it will try to retrieve drone after warning U.S. to stop ‘hostile’ flights near its borders

The Kremlin said Wednesday it believed it had the capabilities to recover the remains of the American drone that crashed into the Black Sea after a dramatic encounter with Russian fighter jets.

Russia views US drone incident as provocation, ambassador says

Peskov described U.S.-Russia relations as being at their lowest point but added that “Russia has never rejected a constructive dialogue, and it’s not rejecting it now.”

While encounters between Russian and NATO aircraft are not unusual — before the invasion of Ukraine, NATO planes were involved in an annual average of 400 intercepts with Russian planes — the war has heightened the significance and potential hazards of such incidents.

“The last thing that we want, certainly the last thing that anybody should want, is for this war in Ukraine to escalate to become something between the United States and Russia, to have this actually ... expand beyond that,” Kirby said, speaking Wednesday on CNN.


If that's true, then there actions give a totally different message to Putin. Hopefully, they are blatantly lying to us, while conducting negotiations using a back channel that they don't want us to know about(because they want to give impressions with false narratives and rhetoric to look strong).

If they aren't then US actions, with the false propaganda are the recipe for additional escallations and deterioration. 

By metmike - March 15, 2023, 12:04 p.m.
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This is interesting from 2018:

US intelligence-gathering aircraft are flying over the Black Sea more and more — and Russia is responding     


                                                                                           David Cenciotti,                                  The Aviationist                                        Apr 9, 2018, 5:16 PM

By metmike - March 15, 2023, 12:31 p.m.
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Russia-Ukraine live news: Syria’s Assad visits Putin in Moscow

  • In a televised meeting with President Vladimir Putin, Syrian President Bashar Assad said Russia was fighting “Nazis” in Ukraine, expressing his support for Moscow.
  • Russia’s relations with the United States are in a “lamentable state”, and at their lowest level after Washington accused Moscow of downing one of its drones, the Kremlin has said.

INTERACTIVE Ukraine Refugees


The war cannot bring the world to a ‘standstill’: India

The Ukraine war has brought the world to a standstill when urgent action is needed to address growing global poverty, India’s Group of 20 (G20) summit negotiator Amitabh Kant has said.

Kant’s comments came after the war overshadowed two G20 ministerial meetings in India in the last three weeks.

“Europe cannot bring growth, poverty, global debt, all developmental issues to a standstill across the world,” Kant told reporters.

“Especially when the south is suffering, especially when 75 countries are suffering from global debt, especially when one-third of the world is in recession, especially when 200 million people have gone below [the] poverty line. Can that one war bring the entire world to a standstill?”

“Nutrition has been impacted, health outcomes have been impacted, learning outcomes have been impacted, people have become stunted and wasted, and we are just concerned with one Russia and Ukraine war,” Kant said.

Putin calls Ukraine role in Nord Stream blasts ‘sheer nonsense’

Russian president rejects theory ‘pro-Ukraine groups’ carried out the pipeline sabotage and describes Germany as ‘occupied’ by the United States.

By metmike - March 15, 2023, 1 p.m.
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Time to add some sanity to the discussion

The US was flying the intelligence gathering drone in the Black Sea off the coast of Crimea:

Black Sea location on the World Map


Where is Crimea, who does it belong to and what happened in 2014 between Russia and Ukraine?

Crimea has had a long history and has changed hands throughout time. Russia’s annexation of the territory in 2014 is another page in that saga.


5,949 mi

Distance from United States to Crimean Peninsula


We are supposed to believe that a US intelligence gathering drone, 5,000 miles from our country, just off the coast of Russian territory during a war in which the US has sent 100 billion in military aid to the country fighting Russia will not be seen as provoking/inviting conflict????


Just a reminder again of the US fighter jets shooting down completely benign, science data gathering high altitude objects, one over Canada.

Biden was crucified for not shooting down the first balloon, that was from China, ASAP BEFORE it had the chance to gather sensitive data in US air space. Then he went crazy shooting down complete nothings in the sky, one not even over the US.

You can't be FOR that aggressive approach (shooting down the Chinese balloon) and be against Russia here. This drone that Russia took down  was not benign. It was gathering intelligence information to use against Russia just off the coast of Russian territory and 5,000 miles from our country.

This mission was NOT to protect Americans or US soil. It was intended entirely to HURT RUSSIA.

Of course it was.


By metmike - March 15, 2023, 1:34 p.m.
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Just a reminder of the REAL reason for Putin to be fighting this keep NATO out of Ukraine in order to defend Russia's interests.

US intelligence gathering drones off the coast of Crimea are yet another confirmation of the mindset of the US/NATO.

The US/NATO fighting this proxy war against Russia in Ukraine is actually the most powerful indication that Putin is exactly right about their intentions.

Otherwise, why wouldn't they have just agreed not to expand into Ukraine and avoided hundreds of thousands of deaths and 1 trillion in damage and tens of trillions in damage to global energy and food markets.

All the West had to do was agree that Ukraine would stay out of Ukraine.........that's it. No war.

But they choose this instead and justified it with nonstop false propaganda that makes us look like the good guys and prancing Zelensky around in Western countries as a war hero, when the truth is, his own personal political agenda has done the most to obliterate his own country/people since WW-2. 

This is not defending Putin's actions, just telling the truth about our extremely powerful role that intentionally chose war and not negotiations/peace.

It's been over 1 year with the war STILL escalating. 

Some people have just accepted it like it's normal or justified. Definitely presented as justified by the sources in this country.

Zelensky and NATO refuse to negotiate stating that they won't do so until Russia completely withdraws from Ukraine.

The reason that Russia invaded in the first place was BECAUSE they wouldn't negotiate on NATO taking over Ukraine.