Durham's final report
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Started by metmike - May 15, 2023, 6:34 p.m.

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Mueller investigation corruption:



Special counsel John Durham's long-awaited report on FBI's Russia investigation released by DOJ



One side will pretend that nothing was wrong and the other will be more accurate in describing the biggest scam from the FBI in history.

The objective  of the investigation was to discredit Trump's win/Clinton's loss in 2016. They found crimes along the way, most of them actually created by the investigation/investigators to present the fake justification of that being the reason they were investigating.  We all know that the purpose was to get Trump and provide 2.5 years of media/left coverage telling us that he colluded with Russia and that's why Mueller is taking so long investigating. And just wait until he releases his findings.

Then, even after the release with ZERO evidence of Trump colluding with Russia, the same side ignored that and claimed that he obstructed the investigation and couldn't be prosecuted because he was the president.

Obstructed the investigation? In most objective circles where a person is being relentlessly crucified for doing something they didn't do, the much more accurate word for describing how Trump responded  would be DEFENDING himself, based on the truth.

By metmike - May 15, 2023, 6:44 p.m.
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READ: Durham report on Trump-Russia investigation


Trump-era special counsel John Durham, assigned to review the investigation of the former president’s ties to Russia, concluded authorities didn’t have sufficient information to open the case, according to his report released Monday.


The final 305-page report offers a scathing assessment of the FBI’s process in how it launched and carried out the investigation, which was known as “Crossfire Hurricane.”


Durhams report indicates that the unreliable and proven false/unverified evidence they did use to start the investigation, was cooked up and paid for by Trump's political opponents.

By metmike - May 15, 2023, 6:54 p.m.
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Maybe I should break down the threads that showed this was actually one of the biggest frauds in the history of the FBI:


                            9 responses |             

                Started by wglassfo - June 1, 2022, 11:21 a.m.            


    would our little Hillary does this?            

                            5 responses |        

                Started by mcfarm - May 20, 2022, 3:52 p.m.            


More Mueller corruption!                                                 

                Started by metmike - Sept. 11, 2020, 6:44 p.m.           


At Least 27 Phones from Special Counsel’s Office Were Wiped before DOJ Inspector General Could Review Them


                FISA report: DOJ watchdog releases findings on Russia probe surveillance                                                                   Started by metmike - Dec. 9, 2019, 1:12 p.m.  


                IG testimony today            

                                   Started by wglassfo - Dec. 11, 2019, 5:09 p.m.            


                            Alan Dershowitz: Stone indictment follows concerning Mueller pattern

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/427020-alan-dershowitz-stone-indictment-follows-concerning-mueller-pattern ...

                Re: Re: Pardon for Michael Flynn            



Reviewing Muellers corruption with facts:


Just to add this about Horowitz's covering up for the FBI with his interpretation of their unethical behavior(calling it just a bunch of  double digit, unintentional errors):

Horowitz report is damning for the FBI and unsettling for the rest of us

by Jonathan Turley, opinion contributor - 12/09/19 


IG Horowitz Found ‘Apparent Errors or Inadequately Supported Facts’ in Every Single FBI FISA Application He Reviewed

March 31, 2020


By metmike - May 16, 2023, 12:42 p.m.
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John Durham has to know his final report is a mess


However, over the course of more than 300 pages, the Durham Report doesn’t just fail to live up to Trump supporters’ expectations of a spectacular vindication; it manages to fail on every other level as well. Durham fails to rebut the previous findings from special counsel Robert Mueller or the Department of Justice’s inspector general. He fails to provide suggested changes that the FBI could make moving forward. He fails to acknowledge how much of the winking innuendo the report includes wasn’t proved in court. And, ironically, he fails to realize that his central argument includes a standard for politically charged investigations that Trump would absolutely hate to see put into practice.

The Durham Report doesn’t just fail to live up to Trump supporters’ expectations of a spectacular vindication; it manages to fail on every other level as well.


MSNBC assumes their viewers/readers will NOT actually read the report or that they have tuned into any sources that presented indisputable evidence of the blatant corruption that I provided on the previous page. They go to MSNBC, like they go to other biased political sources, including Fox on the other side to listen/read that source telling them what they want to hear.

MSNBC's interpretation here is complete balderdash. This is why we have people in our country with brains stuffed with propaganda, DISinformation and false narratives. The media and politicians just manufacture/make up whatever reality they want followers to believe and that's the one that becomes "their" truth.

People DO NOT fact check things that they want to believe in! They will fact check things they don't want to believe in but mostly, they will leave all the fact checking to their "go to" sources who tell them what to believe.

Then, go to echo chambers to communicate with other like minded people in the same tribe to give each other positive reinforcement of their ideologies, so they can all feel good about themselves because THEIR belief system is THE only true belief system. 

The scientific method actually compels the scientist to scrutinize what they think they know. Then, if they can't debunk their own work/theory/belief, then can move forward with the assumption that it's authentic. 

Mainstream science today, is often corrupted by funding and political bias/agenda. In a world where many scientists can't adhere to the scientific method certainly isn't one where we would expect the most dishonest (politicians, media and crony capitalists) to use it.

Of course they dont.

Ratings/profits, self enrichment and politics are the driving forces. 

By metmike - May 16, 2023, 1:39 p.m.
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GOP presidential candidates slam FBI over Durham report

Durham’s 306-page report accused the FBI of a double standard. 



On this particular topic, the GOP and extremely biased far right sources with low credibility, like Fox in the evening and especially the MAGA far right are exactly right.

Here are some recent quotes that apply and represent the view of  the moderator at MarketForum.


                By metmike - Nov. 2, 2021, 10:54 p.m

Neither political party has a franchise on the truth.

If you believe one party all the time......................you will believe in lies some of the time.


metmike, MarketForum 



                By metmike - Aug. 20, 2022, 11:09 a.m.            

Stop believing political things because your favorite political source repeats it. Do objective/independent investigations to see why the opposite party has some things right and what your party has wrong.

If you can't find anything..........YOU AIN'T LOOKIN HARD ENOUGH!




     By metmike - Sept. 9, 2022, 5:02 p.m.         

The difference between us on taking stands, mcfarm is that I take stands using a non politically affiliated mind that independently acquires   objective data and facts to provide compelling evidence that strongly supports and in fact.......DEFINES the position.

You and most others on the other hand, align with a political party and have already decided on positions based on political ideologies and twist all facts/evidence to get them to line up with what you want to believe.........and you mainly go to information gatekeepers/sources that tell you what you want to hear/read (reinforce it).




                By metmike - Sept. 25, 2022, 1:16 p.m.            

            "This is just part of  politics in the US today.  We have stopped seeing both sides of issues and  now see  high profile people in politics and other realms as being either FOR US or AGAINST US."




                By metmike - Oct. 7, 2022, 12:05 p.m.            


Neither political party has a franchise on the truth.

If you believe one party all the time......................you will believe in lies some of the time.



"The trick is being able to tell the difference between the truth and the lies, then picking the truth from BOTH parties and rejecting their lies.

What makes that incredibly difficult to do is that the stronger your affiliation to a party is,  the more blindly you embrace all the tenets of their belief system!



                By metmike - Oct. 27, 2022, 1:51 a.m.            

            In 2022, people no longer need to believe their eyes and ears, especially in politics but even in science, when politics hijacks science for an agenda.

They can just decide what they want to believe or a message gatekeeper in their party can tell them what to believe.  

They just  convince themselves that manufactured/alternative realities that they like are true and completely reject the authentic truths that contradict anything that they don't want to believe. Then, only go to places that reinforce what they want to believe.




                By metmike - Nov. 30, 2022, 7:45 p.m.                      

"The brain cannot recognize the authentic truth when that person's truth has been defined as the complete opposite!"


By mcfarm - May 16, 2023, 7:34 p.m.
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Mike, this is what I have been trying for years to get you to understand but could not come with the right words apparently. At about the 3 minute mark listen to what the great Prof says about America and liberty. And remember this guy likes Hillary, voted for Hillary. If you cherish this country and what it stands for sometimes you must defend what you think is the least of us {Trump}. On a side note it now appears the fake Russian hoax has cost Trump some 15% of the vote, esp after the hoax of the letter from the so called men of the intelligence agencies who prostituted themselves as big as Dallas....and the Prof even gives them some credit by calling some of them "men of integrity" thinking they were aiding America by making sure Trump did not win.


By metmike - May 16, 2023, 8:04 p.m.
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Thanks, mcfarm!

Dershowitz has always been one of my favorite sources. If you go to the links above, you'll note him in several places. 

By 12345 - May 19, 2023, 5:31 p.m.
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Frank Figliuzzi calls GOP-led weaponization hearing a ‘sad spectacle’


By 12345 - May 20, 2023, 6:44 p.m.
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The White House is LYING TO US!


By metmike - May 21, 2023, 1:36 a.m.
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Thanks, Jean!

Jim Jordan is similar to Ted Cruz, described here:


He's a bully that constantly tries to intimidate people he disagrees with  by shouting and disrespecting them.  Never really  listening to or caring what they have to say. Mainly concerned with looking like a republican tough guy. Asking rhetorical questions and cutting the answers short.

Fighting  with gusto against anybody that doesn't line up with his ideologies so that voters will eat it up. 

A top 10 most divisive leader in a profession that is already way too divisive in a world way too divisive..........and getting much worse because of guys like him.

I am greatly repulsed by his attack dog strategy. 

Even if he gets something  right, his methods/treatment of others is so off the rails that it makes people NOT on the far right, sympathize with the person he abuses. 

This isn’t a person doing a good job asserting positions for his constituents. It’s a person blatantly abusing their power with offensive tactics.