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Started by metmike - Aug. 2, 2023, 6:25 p.m.

OceanGate's cofounder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050, and says we shouldn't stop pushing the limits of innovation

https://www.businessinsider.com/oceangate-cofounder-send-humans-live-venus-atmosphere-2050-titan-sohnlein-2023-7

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This is an example of the media all rushing to cover science idiocy for ratings and readers, instead of confronting it with sanity or ignoring it. 

This is even dumber and more impossible than Elon Musk's supposed objective of a million people living on Mars.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/90818/#90834

Why give them attention they crave and mislead people with completely bogus ideas?

People are having a tough enough time now trying to discern what the truth is and what is a lie. What is possible and what is impossible. They get fed manufactured realities like this and some will believe it.

Why don't people like this spend their billions here helping the less fortunate?

Yeah, I know they care more about fame and attention. It's their money, right?

Although that's true, why reward them for using their money for self serving, attention getting interests that are retarded and impossible?

Because the people that publish this hoowee are also driven by self serving interests related to getting clicks or making money on what they sell. 

Extreme, exaggerated and wild speculated news sells.


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By metmike - Aug. 2, 2023, 6:37 p.m.
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Let's just turn it into a learning opportunity about Venus.

NASA’s DAVINCI Explores Ten Mysteries of Venus

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2021/davinci-ten-mysteries-of-venus

The surface of Venus is completely inhospitable for life: barren, dry, crushed under an atmosphere about 90 times the pressure of Earth’s and roasted by temperatures two times hotter than an oven. But was it always that way? Could Venus once have been a twin of Earth - a habitable world with liquid water oceans? This is one of the many mysteries associated with our shrouded sister world.


What Would It Be Like to Live on Venus?

https://www.space.com/28357-how-to-live-on-venus.html

Walking around on Venus wouldn't be a pleasant experience. The Venusian surface is completely dry because the planet suffers from a runaway greenhouse gas effect. That is, its thick atmosphere is full of heat-trapping carbon dioxide that keeps the planet's surface temperatures at about 870 degrees Fahrenheit (465 degrees Celsius).

Venus' gravity is almost 91 percent of Earth's, so you could jump a little higher and objects would feel a bit lighter on Venus, compared with Earth. "You probably wouldn't notice the difference in gravity so much, but what you would notice is the dense atmosphere," Svedhem said. "The air is so thick that if try to move your arm quickly, you would feel resistance. It would almost be like being in water."

Likewise, it'd be hard to miss the change in atmospheric pressure. At sea level on Earth, the air presses down on our bodies at 14.5 pounds per square inch, or 1 bar; the surface pressure on Venus is 92 bar. To experience that pressure on Earth, you'd have to travel more than 3,000 feet (914 m) down into the ocean.

Venus takes 225 Earth days to revolve around the sun and 243 Earth days to rotate on its axis. "But the time from one midday to the next is 117 Earth days, because Venus rotates backwards," Svedhem said. This retrograde rotation also means that the sun would rise in the west and set in the east.

Though we see a blue sky on Earth, the sky on Venus would always appear reddish orange because of the way the carbon dioxide molecules scatter the sun's light. You wouldn't see the sun as a distinct point in this sky, but rather a hazy, yellowish tint behind the dense clouds, Svedhem said, adding that the nighttime sky would be a starless black.

High in Venus's atmosphere, winds travel up to 249 mph (400 km/h) — faster than tornado and hurricane winds on Earth. But on the planet's surface, the wind only travels at about 2 mph (3 km/h). And though the planet does have lightning, the blinding flashes never reach the surface. Additionally, the blistering heat prevents any rainstorms from touching ground on Venus.

The active volcanoes on Venus, however, may pose a danger, Svedhem said.

And unlike Earth, Venus likely doesn't have earthquakes because it lacks tectonic plate activity that releases heat from its interior. Instead, what may happen is that the heat builds to a critical point over millions of years, and then suddenly gets released from some kind of mechanism, such as large-scale volcanic activity that remolds the surface of the planet.

But if you wanted to complain to your friends back home about how lava destroyed your backyard, don't expect an immediate response — your message would take a few minutes to reach Earth when the two planets are at their shortest distance apart. And when Venus is on the other side of the sun from Earth, it could take almost 15 minutes for your message to get home.

Editor's note: This is Part 2 in Space.com's 12-part series "Living on Other Planets: What It Would Be Like" to see what an astronaut would see on other planets and moons of our solar system and beyond.